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NLC1072 21st Feb 2018 08:04

Atmosphere Intercontinental Airlines Uk - What?!
 
Atmosphere Intercontinental Airlines Uk

I don't know how they've got this far, but its a complete joke!!!

facebook.com/AtmosphereIntercontinentalAirlinesUk


atmosphereairlinesuk.com

Registered under a virtual address in London, with a Thai phone number.

Then this;

"9 February at 10:35 ·
TEMP TO PERM - OFFICE ADMIN STAFF REQUIRED! Monday - Friday 8-4pm. We are looking for up to 4 temporary staff to join our Chelmsford office. The positions are temp to perm based on your performance. These are admin roles so any previous admin skills you have will be looked at favourably. If you are interested then please send your CV to [email protected]."

Suddenly their address moves to 117 Watson Heights, Chelmsford CM1 1AG. This is a residential, rented address!

This story appears on their facebook news feed;

"Our Team is headed by CEO Mr Jason Unsworth a very multi talented entrepreneur and Chairman Donald Unsworth a House Builder by profession and frequent flyer of many airlines including Virgin Atlantic, Norweigen, My Travel and JMC Airlines.

Former COO of Lot Polish Airlines and CEO of Lot Polish Express founder of Enter Air and Fly Blu Poland is our COO for our UK operation.

Michelle Bell is presently British Airways Ground and Inflight Heathrow Operations Manager, who will join us on launching Atmosphere Airlines at Heathrow.

Ersin Aryn is Managing Director and Head of Cabin Crew for our UK operations joining him will be Ella Sands who is the Lead SEP Cabin Crew Trainer at FlyDubai and has been with the airline since launching 12 years ago. Having worked at FlyGlobeSpan prior to this.

Fadil Shamtally will join us as our revenue manger from Etihad Airways.

Sophia Augusta will join us as our Cargo Manager from Qatar Airways.

Raffaello Bonanni Joins us as our Pilot Instructor from Emirates Airline and will head our executive gulfstream fleet project for royal charters.

Peter Styren a former American Airlines FAA Federal Pilot of 35 years joins us as our Chief Boeing Pilot."



From what I can see, they have a gofund me page that has reached £2000, of which I am sure is being used to send to his Thai bride who looking at her facebook lives in Thailand...

Your comments welcome.

Anybody ever find any other "start ups" that are this comical?

KelvinD 21st Feb 2018 16:42

This topic has been covered under the Airlines, Airports & Routes forum.
I just took a look at their web site. Obviously, grammar and spelling will not be their "USP"!
On the other hand, there is this:
https://www.prbuzz.com/business-entr...n-systems.html
A laugh a minute!

El Bunto 22nd Feb 2018 20:02

They do appear to be real people that they have listed, and their current occupations are correct as far as a snoop on LinkedIn shows. Which makes it either incredibly ballsy or totaly true.

I have no idea which!

Donkey497 22nd Feb 2018 20:27

I'm sorry to say that their website is one of the worst examples of advanced cruelty to the common or garden apostrophe that I have seen in many years.

AeroSpark 22nd Feb 2018 22:30


Originally Posted by Donkey497 (Post 10062014)
I'm sorry to say that their website is one of the worst examples of advanced cruelty to the common or garden apostrophe that I have seen in many years.

Not to mention the comma, full stop, or capital letter...:=:}

5711N0205W 23rd Feb 2018 21:27


Atmosphere’s business plan is aimed at becoming the World’s Safest Airline, with a heavy focus on implementing and exploring existing and innovative solutions in terms of security, safety, punctuality, service and comfort.
:D

Have some characters...

TCU 25th Feb 2018 16:19

I wonder if they will use Russ Abbott singing "Atmosphere" for their marketing campaign?

A330ETOPS 20th Mar 2018 22:17

Apparently they have signed a contract with Hi Fly for ACMI A330’s.... Seems highly unlikely to me

chevvron 21st Mar 2018 04:53


Originally Posted by El Bunto (Post 10061981)
They do appear to be real people that they have listed, and their current occupations are correct as far as a snoop on LinkedIn shows. Which makes it either incredibly ballsy or totaly true.

I have no idea which!

Doesn't matter 'cos they'll never get a slot at Heathrow.

pax britanica 21st Mar 2018 07:38

Who are these fantasists that crop up from time to time.

Slots at LHR , more chance of having a security company say their business plan is to take over guarding the Crown jewels. And even if they did get a slot well Chelmsford would be the perfect place for offices wouldn't it .

Good for a laugh tho first thing in morning

If you say so 20th Nov 2018 11:01

According to their publicity Atmosphere have apparently ordered 2 A359's and are also now holding assessment days. Whilst I hold very similar opinions to those already posted here regarding their legitimacy (or lack thereof); unless we're wrong then actually holding out to engage with people for recruitment purposes (with false hope and associated expenses likely to be incurred by candidates) is going too far in their little fantasy World. See below lifted from their FB page

"Mountain High Consultants are opening recruitment for Cabin Crew and Pilots from December 1st.
Cabin Crew assessment days will take place at Great Hallingbury Manor hotel in Stansted in December 11, 19, 22 and 28.
Pilot assessment days will take place at:
December 11th- Radisson Blu London Heathrow
December 12th- Radisson Blu London Heathrow
December 14th- Radisson Blu London Stansted
December 18th- Crowne Plaza Manchester Airport
December 19th- Crowne Plaza Manchester Airport
December 23rd- Hilton Garden Inn Hatton Cross

With pilot sim days for successful candidates:
January 1,2,3,4,5,6 and 9,10 at CAE Oxford.

We are just finishing writing up training programmes for pilots and cabin crew.
Looking for experienced Cabin Crew and Pilots, for A340-600 Type Aircrafts."


Has anyone found a shred of counter-evidence that gives credence to their plans?

DaveReidUK 20th Nov 2018 16:48

Well I'm convinced:

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9956115920.jpg

STN/BKK 3 pw
STN/CUN 1 pw
STN/JRO 1 pw
STN/SGN 1 pw
STN/SIN 1 pw
STN/KBV 1 pw
STN/TFS 1 pw

https://atmosphereairlinesuk.com/flight-schedule

Strangely, no trace of them on the Stansted website, but I'm sure that's just a matter of time ...

:O

rog747 20th Nov 2018 16:59

When SOU airport MD had a twitter show last month this lot tweeted for enquiries for Ops into SOU :eek:

Some little teen in his bedroom in Essex ?

If you say so 20th Nov 2018 17:50

We’ve all dreamed of a new venture doing it better than it’s ever been done; I still remember putting an unbeatable and un-tapped UK domestic schedule together on a bar napkin in Moscow (assisted manfully at the time by Captain Smirnoff ����) The following morning, the plan was agreed to be utter tosh!

There is however some kind of firm belief behind these guys which shouts out either an unprecedented level of naivety or perhaps something more sinister by way of financial gain.

As a side note, then according to twttr the CEO also wants to be UK Prime Minister in 2022.

sixchannel 20th Nov 2018 19:26


Originally Posted by rog747 (Post 10315751)
When SOU airport MD had a twitter show last month this lot tweeted for enquiries for Ops into SOU :eek:

Some little teen in his bedroom in Essex ?

Probably the Schoolboy who was starting up his own Blackpool based airline.

rationalfunctions 21st Nov 2018 04:28


Originally Posted by If you say so (Post 10315794)

There is however some kind of firm belief behind these guys which shouts out either an unprecedented level of naivety or perhaps something more sinister by way of financial gain.

Couldn't agree more. I'm fairly convinced that this is all a fraud to raise cash through their GoFundMe page - it's looks too detailed to be just a prank (with 'website' and social media presence) and yet too specific to be pure naivety (such as their 'timetable' and mention on website of various certification in progress). Hopefully someone will flag this as a potential fraud risk to GoFundMe - I can't from abroad given IP restrictions.

CheshireChap 21st Nov 2018 08:56

I actually reported it to GoFundMe a few days back, just waiting on a response now.
I have no doubt that this is a sham albeit with some relatively fair research behind it.

Hotel Tango 21st Nov 2018 09:52

I tell you what, even if it was totally genuine (which it isn't) the last thing I would fund is a new airline. Sure way of kissing my precious $$$ goodbye, con or no con! :)

treadigraph 21st Nov 2018 10:35

I see two of the principals concerned are confident enough in their endeavours to fund it to the tune of a fiver each...

treadigraph 21st Nov 2018 12:27

Just looking through the site again...

It occurs to me that in order to rob others, some people know how to weaver tale or two. Not that I'm suggesting this is indeed the case or there are even any connections, just a similarity...

If you say so 21st Nov 2018 12:57

Looks like the lies have finally caught up with the main protagonist. Looking at the traffic on their Linked..in and Face..book pages today he's perhaps told one to many tall tales.

Brief overview of the fun -
Atmos - Guys! We've ordered some brand new A359's for delivery in Feb 2019.
Commentator - Great, but those photo's are A340's.
Atmos - Erm, yes, erm AerCap have screwed up, and so they won't be ready until November 2019. We're erm, chartering these A340's in the interim.
Owner of said A340's - Ooookay, but not these one's you ain't! By the way who are you again? Don't think we've met.
Aercap - Ooookay, but sorry, no A359's avail at all next year. By the way who are you? Don't think we've met.
Another commentator - Right, so you're chartering - whose AOC will they be on?
Atmos - We're applying for our own AOC etc etc
Commentator - but you said chartering; perhaps then u mean a lease?
Atmos - (silence)...I think at that point his mind just went "tilt".

If it wasn't for the potentially sinister intent, and the associated damage this sort of activity can cause, then I for one wouldn't be able to wait for the next series of "An Airline in my Mind"!

DaveReidUK 21st Nov 2018 13:11


Aso 21st Nov 2018 14:40


and frequent flyer of many airlines including Virgin Atlantic, Norweigen, My Travel and JMC Airlines.
Mmm... I went to good restaurants all my life... Does that make me a good cook? :rolleyes:

Captivep 21st Nov 2018 14:45

I don't think it's an attempt at a scam (£2000 in 22 months and real names used) but, of course, neither is it a serious attempt at a start up. On the Founder's linkedin page his ambition is to turn it into the world's biggest airline; it's clearly a fantasy back bedroom project.

One does wonder, though, why they then tweet such nonsense as the post above!

TwinAisle 23rd Nov 2018 10:27

In honour of the Chairman of Atmosphere.... and with apologies to Andy Stewart.....

To the Tune of Donald where’s yer Troosers

I've just come down
From the Flight Line, so
I'm not very big and I'm awfully slow
And the Engineers shout where ‘er I go
Donald, where's your Airbus?

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
Through Toulouse
In my kilt, I'll go
All the Engineers do crow
Donald, where's your Airbus
?

Now I went down to London Town
And I had some fun in the underground
The bankers turned their heads around
Saying, Donald, where is your Airbus?

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
NatWest called me a so and so
The bankers told me where to go
‘Cos I can’t afford an Airbus


AirCap joined our happy band
The Fake Sheikh promised to lend a hand
But Stansted threatened to have me banned
Because I had nae Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
GoFundMe -
I’ll have a go!
All the airline pros say “oh,
Donald, where's your Airbus?”


I’m a frequent flying Chelmsford man
You write what you like
I don’t give a damn
Although what I spout is a load of spam
‘Cos I dinnae have an Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
I’m going to set up an MRO
And the C-check costs will be awfully low
‘Cos I dinnae have an Airbus


I've just come back
From the baggage claim
With Atmosphere I’ll make my name
In actual fact, this is pretty lame
When you dinnae have an Airbus….

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow low
Let the wind blow high
Down to LSG I’ll fly

Loads of sarnies there I’ll spy
But no sign of my Airbus!

Ma wee son thinks he gonna fly
Wee dogs and cats and ladies Thai
But everybody else knows he’s high and dry
Cos he dinnae have an Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
Off to ATC I go
But radar shows what we all do know
I dinnae have an Airbus!

Wee Jason went to EAG
And begged them for a 340
‘Cos everyone else could plainly see
He dinnae have an Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
To 40,000 feet I’ll go
But getting there
Will be really slow
‘Cos I dinnae have an Airbus


Turns out the “AerCap men” were crooks
Had no 350s on their books
They won’t get a second look
When I go to buy my Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow low
Let the wind blow high
I’ve been misled, well slap my thigh
My plan’s to take YOU for a ride
But never on an Airbus!

I’m going to see the CAA
To get my AOC, hey hey!
I’m told it only takes a day
And THEN I’ll get my Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
Down Kingsway in my kilt I’ll go

But to get that AOC I know
I gotta get an Airbus!

To tweet and tweet is my delight
It is not wrong, I know it's right
Boeing would surely get a fright
If they saw me in my Airbus!

[Chorus:]
Let the wind blow high
Let the wind blow low
Through Stansted
In my kilt, I'll go
All the Hosties there do crow
Donald, where's your Airbus?

treadigraph 23rd Nov 2018 10:35

Magnifique! :D

Looks like he's found some suitable aircraft...


If you say so 23rd Nov 2018 10:35

BRILLIANT!!

sixchannel 23rd Nov 2018 11:01

:-)
 
Awesome! Thank you for brightening up this dull day.

If you say so 23rd Nov 2018 12:22

Further to the last in which both AerCap and European Aviation directly refuted claims as made by this womble; now both CAE and even Great Hallingbury Manor have confirmed in writing that no such assessment bookings are held as were expressly stated by Jason Unsworth in Social Media.

There's no doubt at all this is pure unadulterated fantasy from start to finish; and thankfully almost opportunity to him make gain through this fraud must now be vanishingly small - yet still he continues to bombard Social Media. Fun to watch, but Jason do yourself a favour - put your hands up, then go disappear for a while. You are dealing with some big players who will not hesitate to pursue legal avenues to maintain their good names and decisively ensure that you do not continue to associate your "venture" with them.

sixchannel 23rd Nov 2018 13:06

PILOT INTERVIEWS CROWNE PLAZA, MAN
 
A quick call to the Meeting and Events Coordinator, Steph Hughes, at Crowne Plaza, MAN confirmed NO SUCH MEETINGS BOOKED AND NEVER HEARD OF ATMOSPHERE.
I have to wonder - what is the point of it all?

DaveReidUK 23rd Nov 2018 13:35


Originally Posted by sixchannel (Post 10318382)
I have to wonder - what is the point of it all?

No idea what the point is - but the result could well be some seriously p*ss*d-off pilots and cabin crew who show up on spec.

USERNAME_ 23rd Nov 2018 20:36

According to his multiple twitter accounts, he is also running for 2022 Prime Minister, is currently an advisor to Theresa May, wants to create a new airline alliance, build a new airport in Thailand, create a cargo airline, create an airline in the UK, an airline in Thailand, an airline in Dubai and an airline in india, he also wants to build a hangar in stansted, and is looking to purchase flybe and jet airways.

Furthermore, he is running a dog and cat shelter in Thailand which is supposedly taking peoples donations.


EDIT: And also runs a charity called change for asia, the only followers of which are his family members.

EDIT2: Seems he is now blaming the director of MAEL for his lies, this is better than daytime TV.

A330ETOPS 23rd Nov 2018 21:37

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ca93d868ef.jpg

docstone 24th Nov 2018 08:31

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....25f6498d5d.jpg

From a quick interweb search - this apparently from a disgruntled dog lover about an alleged 'save the dogs' scam in Asia. Were these perhaps the same unfortunate animals who were to be re-deployed as in-flight security?

A330ETOPS 24th Nov 2018 08:53


treadigraph 24th Nov 2018 09:03

Barking... absolutely barking... :p

First.officer 24th Nov 2018 09:51

All levity and joking aside, reading through all of this - maybe the chap has a bonafide psychological issue? and therefore needs some help? seems a little too OTT for my way of thinking, and doesn't appear to be an outright attempt to defraud/swindle? Just saying....

TwinAisle 24th Nov 2018 10:45


Originally Posted by First.officer (Post 10319083)
All levity and joking aside, reading through all of this - maybe the chap has a bonafide psychological issue? and therefore needs some help? seems a little too OTT for my way of thinking, and doesn't appear to be an outright attempt to defraud/swindle? Just saying....


A fair point - but remember that his mother, father and wife are all in on the joke/scam as well....

docstone 24th Nov 2018 11:02


Originally Posted by First.officer (Post 10319083)
All levity and joking aside, reading through all of this - maybe the chap has a bonafide psychological issue? and therefore needs some help? seems a little too OTT for my way of thinking, and doesn't appear to be an outright attempt to defraud/swindle? Just saying....


Originally Posted by A330ETOPS (Post 10319046)

I think it highly likely you're right (I have professional qualifications that add to that view) - there is a level of delusion and self-agrandisment that are outside normal self-confidence .The 'Goldwater Rule' applies though and I won't be tempted to a diagnosis.

I do think though that whatever might be underlying pathology, is minimalised by aggressive and frankly hostile responses to genuine offers of pro bono help from industry experts in the early days: and once money is being sought and naives induced to play a part, pragmatism comes to the forefront .

Global_Global 24th Nov 2018 12:49

I think this is the Love child of the Guvnor and Walter Mitty... Same DNA :\

Only thing missing is the use of L1011s


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