Monarch aircraft movements
 

Just noticed G-OZBM depart BHX heading SE and climbing to a high cruising level. Destination not known.

Level at FL370. More E than SE actually.

G-OZBL, also out of BHX, now following behind BM.

A few gone to Shannon & Ostrava today

G-OZBF - LGW-SNN
G-OZBI - LGW-SNN
G-OZBL - BHX-OSR
G-OZBM - BHX-OSR
G-OZBN - LGW-OSR
G-ZBAG - BHX-SNN
G-ZBAL - LGW-DUB
G-ZBAR - LBA-SNN
G-ZBAT - BHX-OSR

None have left from LTN yet.

Level at FL370. More E than SE actually.

How does that work at FL370 when the RVSM approval becomes invalid when the AOC was withdrawn. The aircraft is no longer on the Monarch ops spec and no longer maintained under a maintenance program.

My guess is because it becomes a private flight. The aircraft has its cert of airworthness so legally it can fly privately once all the agencies have been paid.

Reckon its monarch flight crew or a 3rd party operating these flights?

It won't be a Monarch crew unless they paid cash in hand as Monarch Airlines has ceased business. It'll be more likely be pilots hired by the lessor.

That makes sense.

Job Air at Ostrava advertise "Aircraft touch-ups, partial painting for neutralizing of your aircraft or complete painting into new liveries".

http://jobair.eu/painting-facility

the lone 738 has now gone too from BHX - was a Pegasus a/c but it has not as yet gone back to them - edit it left to MST friday 8pm
duff gen given to me

I wonder whether LTN is a little more complicated with debts owed to Airport / Council in respect to other things.

My guess is because it becomes a private flight. The aircraft has its cert of airworthness so legally it can fly privately once all the agencies have been paid.


Well you know nothing about private ops and RVSM :rolleyes:

Regardless of private or AOC, an aircraft's RVSM approval is cancelled once it comes off the operators ops spec as it is no longer maintained under an approved maintenance program. Same applies to the C of A. If not maintained by a CAMO or on an ops spec, the C of A is invalid.

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There will be some Monarch crew on the books still possibly - kept on and paid by the Administrator. Certain positions are required to keep the AOC going. Or as you say some cash in hand

Thank you for enlightening me regarding private ops. I bow to your superior knowledge :D

I'm led to believe that (ex) Monarch pilots are being hired on an ad-hoc basis by the administrator to fly the aircraft back to the lessors and filing their own flight plans

The leasing companies are using their own pilots to ferry the aircraft. No Monarch pilots are doing this job.

All a/c are departing using a permit to fly as it has already been reported they no longer have a valid C of A.

G-OZBR MAN - OSR
G-OZBZ MAN - OSR
G-ZBAF MAN - TBA (heading towards Ireland)

More of the fleet leaving

If not owned by the airline how can they be held for a debt?

I’m aware of Monarch crews being asked to help move some aircraft. Whether they took the offer up I have no idea but they were asked.

Doesn't make any difference who the current operator is, if there are any outstanding charges the airport is entitled under the Civil Aviation Act to detain the aircraft until it gets paid.

With ships they traditionally nail a writ to the main mast.

What's the equivalent with aircraft? Sellotape it to the MLG and hope the dozy co-Joe does a proper job of his/her pre-flight inspection?

Yep, happened in BHX last year with a Air X CL850.
I was just thinking that the Local Debts would go wider than to airport, LBC with Company Rates / Taxes etc. Did MON own the HO Building....?

Blocking the aircraft in with a spare snowplough usually gets the message across.

I believe they remove the aircraft's papers in addition to the sellotaped notices.

That explains it, then
 

Having a shufti at FR24 a bit before midnight last night I saw what claimed to be an N-reg Cessna 172 climb out of Luton and head west, ending up at FL380 and 450kt. Had me scratching my head a bit.

That explains it, then
 

I'm not sure what it explains. :O

What you observed on FR24 was Miami Air B738 N732MA sending a duff ICAO24.

It's been about quite a bit over the last few days, probably doing Monarch repatriation flights.

Was the Turkish B737 re-registered before departure? FR24 still has it at BHX.

Luton still has its 4 Monarch's at the airport.

I'm afraid you're incorrect. Numerous (ex) Monarch pilots are positioning these aircraft. Yes, of course they're no longer Monarch pilots but they were a few days ago and are now doing these flights effectively as a contractor for the lessor/administrator.

The Monarch aircraft sat at Luton are waiting on paperwork, not because money is owed to LAA.

i gather the 737 has gone to Maastricht

A bit of confusion here - yes, it's gone to Maastricht, but it didn't actually leave BHX until just after 8pm yesterday evening.

Noted on Mode S using its reg as Flight ID, so no indication of whose crew was flying it.

i was given duff gen that the 737 left a couple of days ago
- it left yesterday

B737 G-ZBAV departed Maastricht for Woensdrecht this morning. Presumably came to MST because Woensdrecht was closed by 6PM or so yesterday. Seems strange not to just fly BHX-WOE this morning.

According to Jethro G-OZBW/BX G-ZBAD/AH/AM/AS, G-MARA & G-OJEG have been deregistered, but not sure what the new regs are for these aircraft, unless they've been kept the same.

All the above were re-registered on 5-6/10 to assorted banks and lessors, but still with their original UK marks.

G-ZBAS is reported to be coming to Maastricht tonight.