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Old 4th Oct 2017, 23:08   #1 (permalink)
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Monarch aircraft movements

Just noticed G-OZBM depart BHX heading SE and climbing to a high cruising level. Destination not known.
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Old 4th Oct 2017, 23:12   #2 (permalink)
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Level at FL370. More E than SE actually.
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Old 4th Oct 2017, 23:57   #3 (permalink)
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G-OZBL, also out of BHX, now following behind BM.
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Old 4th Oct 2017, 23:58   #4 (permalink)
 
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A few gone to Shannon & Ostrava today
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G-OZBF - LGW-SNN
G-OZBI - LGW-SNN
G-OZBL - BHX-OSR
G-OZBM - BHX-OSR
G-OZBN - LGW-OSR
G-ZBAG - BHX-SNN
G-ZBAL - LGW-DUB
G-ZBAR - LBA-SNN
G-ZBAT - BHX-OSR

None have left from LTN yet.
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Level at FL370. More E than SE actually.

How does that work at FL370 when the RVSM approval becomes invalid when the AOC was withdrawn. The aircraft is no longer on the Monarch ops spec and no longer maintained under a maintenance program.
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 06:28   #7 (permalink)
 
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My guess is because it becomes a private flight. The aircraft has its cert of airworthness so legally it can fly privately once all the agencies have been paid.
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 06:55   #8 (permalink)
 
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Reckon its monarch flight crew or a 3rd party operating these flights?
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 07:14   #9 (permalink)
 
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It won't be a Monarch crew unless they paid cash in hand as Monarch Airlines has ceased business. It'll be more likely be pilots hired by the lessor.
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A few gone to Shannon & Ostrava today
That makes sense.

Job Air at Ostrava advertise "Aircraft touch-ups, partial painting for neutralizing of your aircraft or complete painting into new liveries".

http://jobair.eu/painting-facility
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the lone 738 has now gone too from BHX - was a Pegasus a/c but it has not as yet gone back to them - edit it left to MST friday 8pm
duff gen given to me

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Old 5th Oct 2017, 10:23   #12 (permalink)
 
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G-OZBF - LGW-SNN
G-OZBI - LGW-SNN
G-OZBL - BHX-OSR
G-OZBM - BHX-OSR
G-OZBN - LGW-OSR
G-ZBAG - BHX-SNN
G-ZBAL - LGW-DUB
G-ZBAR - LBA-SNN
G-ZBAT - BHX-OSR

None have left from LTN yet.
I wonder whether LTN is a little more complicated with debts owed to Airport / Council in respect to other things.
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My guess is because it becomes a private flight. The aircraft has its cert of airworthness so legally it can fly privately once all the agencies have been paid.


Well you know nothing about private ops and RVSM

Regardless of private or AOC, an aircraft's RVSM approval is cancelled once it comes off the operators ops spec as it is no longer maintained under an approved maintenance program. Same applies to the C of A. If not maintained by a CAMO or on an ops spec, the C of A is invalid.
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 17:22   #14 (permalink)
 
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It won't be a Monarch crew unless they paid cash in hand as Monarch Airlines has ceased business. It'll be more likely be pilots hired by the lessor
There will be some Monarch crew on the books still possibly - kept on and paid by the Administrator. Certain positions are required to keep the AOC going. Or as you say some cash in hand
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Well you know nothing about private ops and RVSM
Thank you for enlightening me regarding private ops. I bow to your superior knowledge
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I'm led to believe that (ex) Monarch pilots are being hired on an ad-hoc basis by the administrator to fly the aircraft back to the lessors and filing their own flight plans
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The leasing companies are using their own pilots to ferry the aircraft. No Monarch pilots are doing this job.
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All a/c are departing using a permit to fly as it has already been reported they no longer have a valid C of A.
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 21:33   #19 (permalink)
 
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Angry

G-OZBR MAN - OSR
G-OZBZ MAN - OSR
G-ZBAF MAN - TBA (heading towards Ireland)

More of the fleet leaving
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I wonder whether LTN is a little more complicated with debts owed to Airport / Council in respect to other things.
If not owned by the airline how can they be held for a debt?
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