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fourplay 16th May 2006 17:54

Slave
 
hehehehehhehehehehehhe Your funny! :} :} :}

Its a 330 on steriods gone wrong.

GK430 16th May 2006 18:05

oh dear, 'DD in standard Airbus livery:bored: :bored:

it was much better in UAE livery, but guess at least the RR stickers on the Trents will be back:ok:

Airbus Student 16th May 2006 18:18

LeezyJet,

Will you be at the reception being held?

If so I might see you there.

055166k 16th May 2006 18:45

Out of Berlin for fly-by Hawarden....down the airway for fly-by Filton....down the airway towards OCK. ATC told spacing minimum 15 miles behind and nothing closer than 2000 feet below until wake vortex assessment completed.
Or so I believe.

angelorange 16th May 2006 20:21

Part of the task will be to check the effect the A380 has on the ILS - in particular the localiser interaction with the huge fin - so expect it to be tugged around the airfield to various positions - CAT 1,2,3 and taxiways whilst FPL do their calibration checks.

Just completed a similar task at Leige and Schipol with a 747.

The A380 fin is quite a bit larger than on 747's, although being composite may mean it has less of a reflective effect on the localiser unless it happens to be raining!

More on FPL at: www.flightprecision.co.uk

As always we appreciate your patience whilst the FPL BE20 positions for the runs. The sooner it's over the sooner the system will return to normal.

Leezyjet 16th May 2006 20:50


Will you be at the reception being held?
Not unless I can blag my way in. :ok:

I'll just be another yellow jacket standing on the ramp watching.


if its coming from filton then how can it be flying over london as well?
Umm well lets see. It'a an AIRcraft. That means it is able to move through the air and can be made to go anywhere the little men inside want it to. It is not restricted to following roads like a car so flying over London is entirely possible in the same day as flying over Bristol !!!.

:hmm:

MerchantVenturer 16th May 2006 21:20


Originally Posted by bobby_101
lol... ok... so i finalli found out where filton is...lol...
for those who like me didnt know its next to bristol in the west country...
hmmm... if its coming from filton then how can it be flying over london as well?

bobby

Filton is in the north of the Bristol conurbation near the M4/M5 junction. It was originally the home of the Bristol Aeroplane Company, an organisation that amalgamated and was absorbed down the decades.

Such famous aircraft as the Bristol Boxkite, Bristol Fighter, Bristol Blenheim, Beaufort and Beaufighter, Bristol Brabazon, Bristol Britannia and, the most famous of the lot, Concorde were all built and/or designed there. The company was also a maker of aero engines and a large Rolls Royce aero engine facility still exists at neighbouring Patchway.

Filton is roughly 100 miles to the west of Heathrow and one of the joys of a fine summer evening, sadly no longer, was to first hear, then see, Concorde flying over her home city on the final part of her journey from New York.

myrtleman 16th May 2006 22:01

A380: Thursday
 
Judging from the weather forecast it looks as though LHR will be on westerly approaches this Thursday (18/5). So presumably 27L will be the landing runway (out of alternation) on the day.

Great for us who live right under the flightpath!!


MM

Wycombe 16th May 2006 22:20

So something like MALBY-NIGIT-OCK after the Bristol fly-by's should take it nice and close to Wycombe Towers in W Berks. Think I'll be out in the garden hoping for a bit of CAVOK :ok:

supercarb 16th May 2006 23:11


Originally Posted by MerchantVenturer
Such famous aircraft as the Bristol Boxkite, Bristol Fighter, Bristol Blenheim, Beaufort and Beaufighter, Bristol Brabazon, Bristol Britannia and, the most famous of the lot, Concorde were all built and/or designed there. The company was also a maker of aero engines and a large Rolls Royce aero engine facility still exists at neighbouring Patchway.

Not forgetting that today Filton is responsible for the design of the wings, landing gear and fuel systems of Airbus aircraft including the A380.

boguing 17th May 2006 09:47

So, for a layman whose son is at school about a mile from OCK, can anyone give me a probability of it using OCK - and a stab at a time?

Got the headmistress to let the kids out if we are likely to see it.

Thanks.

ALLDAYDELI 17th May 2006 09:57

wx for tommorow not so good. Strong Westerly wind & rain forecast.
Crowd control barriers & police no parking cones on Western/Southern peri road near Stanwell Moor today. Beware.

HEATHROW DIRECTOR 17th May 2006 10:03

This is all getting a bit silly! For those who aren't familiar..... aircraft flying into Heathrow are radar controlled until they are on final approach. If the wind is from the west the usual route for traffic from the Bristol direction would be to Ockham, thence by radar vectors over south London on to the ILS for 27L/R. Normal intercept point is around 10 miles out, but this distance can vary enormously depending on other traffic. The precise routeing is entirely up to the radar controller. If things are quiet it may not even get to Ockham, but maybe "snatched" between Woodley and Ockham for a long downwind..

If the wind is from the east it would still route to Ockham, but then fly back west over Byfleet, Chobham, Scot, etc to join the 09 ILS about 10 miles west of Heathrow, thence over Windsor to the airport. BUT.. if there was a slot in the landing stream in might join the ILS 25 miles west of the airport for a straight-in approach and not go to Ockham.

It is impossible to say in advance exactly where it will fly over but anyone who is familiar with the approach patterns to Heathrow will have a reasonable idea. I can't imagine it getting near Lambourne at all.... But who knows?

Taildragger67 17th May 2006 10:10


Originally Posted by bobby_101
lol... ok... so i finalli found out where filton is...lol...

Bobby,

What does "lol" mean?

Text-speak for 'lots of laughs'

ExSimGuy 17th May 2006 10:50


Originally Posted by GK430
oh dear, 'DD in standard Airbus livery:bored: :bored: it was much better in UAE livery, but guess at least the RR stickers on the Trents will be back:ok:

Well I'd certainly hope that it was RR engines with the stickers on, not a few Pratts with RR stickers :=

oncemorealoft 17th May 2006 11:19

Anyone know what callsign prefix Airbus flights such as this would adopt?

Many thanks

chevvron 17th May 2006 11:51

Foxtrot whisky whisky

GK430 17th May 2006 11:58

ExSimGuy,

I was taken aback slightly at DXB show where Emirates obviously had a lot of clout in the presentation of the 380. The great silver RR stickers had been blatantly removed, as EK had sided with the GP variant. But hey - it was powered by trents and many were impressed by the low db levels.(Okay it was very light!) A touch of hypocrisy, I thought!
I'll dig out a photo later.

GK

jet2us 17th May 2006 14:08

Last minute times
 
Hiya, so does anyone have some more up2date timings for "DD" or any knowledge of the flight plan details. Im intending to catch it from 27 rather than 09 hopefully anoyone know of any good pubs down this way?? I gather somewhere along the approcah will be a reasonable place to see it from?

Anyone that can shed any more last minute light on it would be much appreciated and also does anyone know what the aircrafts full programme for Farnborough is? Will it be displaying or static?

Cheers

Bob1981 17th May 2006 14:56

A380 Flightpath Filton
 
Hey Everyone

I'm keen to get some footage of the A380 flying over filton on camera.

Can anyone suggest a good place to setup?

Thanks

Bob

SATCO 17th May 2006 16:09


Originally Posted by jet2us
Hiya, so does anyone have some more up2date timings for "DD" or any knowledge of the flight plan details. Im intending to catch it from 27 rather than 09 hopefully anoyone know of any good pubs down this way?? I gather somewhere along the approcah will be a reasonable place to see it from?

Anyone that can shed any more last minute light on it would be much appreciated and also does anyone know what the aircrafts full programme for Farnborough is? Will it be displaying or static?

Cheers

THE BIRD WILL BE AT OCK AT 1205Z AND EGLL AT 1212Z

Mudfoot 17th May 2006 16:14

Found this update on my intranet site, for your info.
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BRITISH PILOT TO FLY SUPERJUMBO INTO HEATHROW

Peter Woodman

17 May 2006

Press Association Newswire
British test pilot Ed Strongman will be at the controls tomorrow as the world's biggest passenger airliner, the Airbus A380, flies into Britain for the first time.

The 555-seater double-decker plane, powered by Rolls-Royce Trent 900 engines, is flying from the Berlin Air Show to Heathrow airport in west London.

Among those greeting the 240ft-long aircraft at Heathrow's new £105 million pier 6 at Terminal 3 will be Chancellor Gordon Brown.

En route from Berlin, Mr Strongman and his crew will be taking the £170 million plane over two Airbus UK plants - Broughton in North Wales, where the A380's huge wings are made, and Filton in Bristol.

The A380, which is due to go into passenger service at the end of this year, will stay at Heathrow for airport-compatibility tests before returning to Berlin in the early hours of Friday morning.

Heathrow operator BAA is spending £450 million to enable the airport to be ready to take the A380 and other ultra-large aircraft of the future. Other work has included runway resurfacing, upgrading runway lighting and the construction of new taxiways.

Toulouse-based Airbus has so far taken 159 firm orders from 16 airlines for the A380, which has been developed at a cost of around £6 billion.

Singapore Airlines will be the first carrier to put the plane into passenger service. Other airlines that have ordered A380s include Sir Richard Branson's airline Virgin Atlantic, Qantas, Qatar Airways and Dubai-based Emirates.

But a number of major carriers, including British Airways, have held back from committing themselves, preferring to wait and see how the plane performs.

First shown off at Toulouse in a lavish event attended by Prime Minister Tony Blair in January last year, the A380 first flew the following April.

Around 13,000 UK jobs are dependent on Airbus. There has been concern over employment levels following the decision taken earlier by UK company BAE Systems to sell its 20% stake in Airbus.

scudpilot 17th May 2006 16:52

A380 visible over South Coast
 
Hi All,
Forgive my ignorance, and thanks for allowing me to join your wonderful community!
I will be at LHR to see the A380 tomorrow (along with many of you guys I suspect) just one question, I have a friend who lives in Southampton, anyone know if the aircaft will overfly Southampton and if so what sort of time?

Thanks
Scudpilot

Seagull61 17th May 2006 17:43

A380.into LHR
 
Hi,

Just read on the beeb that the A380 will be landing at Heathrow tomorrow, and parking at the new Pier 6 in T3. I`m actually flying into Heathrow tomorrow - due in at 11ish.....just wondering if anyone knew the exact time it was expected - as i can`t find it anywhere!

Cheers

cptcollins 17th May 2006 18:05

A380 UK routing 18MAY F-WWDD
 
A380 UK movements 18 MAY (sorry if these have been published already)

EDDB-EGNR
E/CTOT 0846Z - ROUTE N0450F390 BELID2X BELID Y203 HLZ UL980 ETEBO UG9 RKN UB5 SPY UY70 OTBED/N0481F240 Y70 GOLES L975 WAL DCT TORGO DCT KEGUN - ETA 1034Z

EGNR-EGTG
E/CTOT 1050Z - ROUTE N0300F150 DCT REXAM N864 MONTY N42 RETSI N862 RILES DCT - ETA 1126Z

EGTG-EGLL
E/CTOT 1145Z - N0250F150 WOTAN L9 KENET - ETA 1212Z

Looks like it may be doing some transit photo shoots!

cptcollins 17th May 2006 18:05

A380 UK routing 18MAY F-WWDD
 
A380 UK movements 18 MAY (sorry if these have been published already)

EDDB-EGNR
E/CTOT 0846Z - ROUTE N0450F390 BELID2X BELID Y203 HLZ UL980 ETEBO UG9 RKN UB5 SPY UY70 OTBED/N0481F240 Y70 GOLES L975 WAL DCT TORGO DCT KEGUN - ETA 1034Z

EGNR-EGTG
E/CTOT 1050Z - ROUTE N0300F150 DCT REXAM N864 MONTY N42 RETSI N862 RILES DCT - ETA 1126Z

EGTG-EGLL
E/CTOT 1145Z - N0250F150 WOTAN L9 KENET - ETA 1212Z

Looks like it may be doing some transit photo shoots!

rmcfarlane 17th May 2006 18:26


Originally Posted by Seagull61
Hi,

Just read on the beeb that the A380 will be landing at Heathrow tomorrow, and parking at the new Pier 6 in T3. I`m actually flying into Heathrow tomorrow - due in at 11ish.....just wondering if anyone knew the exact time it was expected - as i can`t find it anywhere!

Cheers


According to a friend with a LHR based airline it is arriving at 13.30. I cannot verify unfortunately, but what we do know is that there are a large number of barriers up to stop 'spotting'. Bit like Concord's swansong I guess

eyeinthesky 17th May 2006 19:24

Looks like it may be doing some transit photo shoots!

On this route:
EDDB-EGNR
E/CTOT 0846Z - ROUTE N0450F390 BELID2X BELID Y203 HLZ UL980 ETEBO UG9 RKN UB5 SPY UY70 OTBED/N0481F240 Y70 GOLES L975 WAL DCT TORGO DCT KEGUN - ETA 1034Z
the only people who will get a look at it between SPY and OTBED will be other aircraft or maybe a very lucky North Sea rig worker with a good set of binoculars!

eyeinthesky 17th May 2006 19:24

Looks like it may be doing some transit photo shoots!

On this route:
EDDB-EGNR
E/CTOT 0846Z - ROUTE N0450F390 BELID2X BELID Y203 HLZ UL980 ETEBO UG9 RKN UB5 SPY UY70 OTBED/N0481F240 Y70 GOLES L975 WAL DCT TORGO DCT KEGUN - ETA 1034Z
the only people who will get a look at it between SPY and OTBED will be other aircraft or maybe a very lucky North Sea rig worker with a good set of binoculars!

cptcollins 17th May 2006 19:38

hehe - true that

But if you plot the route onto a high level chart its definately an interesting flight path! Would have thought its doing mid-air photo shoots using a chase plane, at least thats the gist i got from field 18 of the flight plan.

cptcollins 17th May 2006 19:38

hehe - true that

But if you plot the route onto a high level chart its definately an interesting flight path! Would have thought its doing mid-air photo shoots using a chase plane, at least thats the gist i got from field 18 of the flight plan.

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 17th May 2006 20:01


Originally Posted by cptcollins
hehe - true that
But if you plot the route onto a high level chart its definately an interesting flight path! Would have thought its doing mid-air photo shoots using a chase plane, at least thats the gist i got from field 18 of the flight plan.


They'll normally be an Aerovision Corvette somewhere closeby.

There was also an A388 doing icing tests between FL 150 and FL 200 out of TLS today.

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 17th May 2006 20:01


Originally Posted by cptcollins
hehe - true that
But if you plot the route onto a high level chart its definately an interesting flight path! Would have thought its doing mid-air photo shoots using a chase plane, at least thats the gist i got from field 18 of the flight plan.


They'll normally be an Aerovision Corvette somewhere closeby.

There was also an A388 doing icing tests between FL 150 and FL 200 out of TLS today.

pollitt1985 17th May 2006 20:08

Do you know which runway it should be landing on? I know it is either 27L or 09R.

Thanks in advance.

pollitt1985 17th May 2006 20:08

Do you know which runway it should be landing on? I know it is either 27L or 09R.

Thanks in advance.

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 17th May 2006 20:11


Originally Posted by pollitt1985
Do you know which runway it should be landing on? I know it is either 27L or 09R.

Thanks in advance.


Landing towards the west if the wind stays as it is.

AlphaWhiskyRomeo 17th May 2006 20:11


Originally Posted by pollitt1985
Do you know which runway it should be landing on? I know it is either 27L or 09R.

Thanks in advance.


Landing towards the west if the wind stays as it is.

cptcollins 17th May 2006 20:32


Originally Posted by pollitt1985
Do you know which runway it should be landing on? I know it is either 27L or 09R.

Thanks in advance.
True, apparently the Southern taxiways are the only ones to have been properly strengthened for the A380 so far. As to which runway, i guess the wind will decide.

Current LHR 18 hr TAF: EGLL 171625Z 180018 22012KT 9999 SCT025 BECMG 0911 23015G25KT TEMPO
1018 23018G35KT 7000 SHRA BKN020CB=


Looks like 27L! Shame about the rain though, should make some interesting reverse thrust shots for those crafty A.netters

cptcollins 17th May 2006 20:32


Originally Posted by pollitt1985
Do you know which runway it should be landing on? I know it is either 27L or 09R.

Thanks in advance.
True, apparently the Southern taxiways are the only ones to have been properly strengthened for the A380 so far. As to which runway, i guess the wind will decide.

Current LHR 18 hr TAF: EGLL 171625Z 180018 22012KT 9999 SCT025 BECMG 0911 23015G25KT TEMPO
1018 23018G35KT 7000 SHRA BKN020CB=


Looks like 27L! Shame about the rain though, should make some interesting reverse thrust shots for those crafty A.netters

kms901 17th May 2006 20:41

Just for once, there may a positive side to living in Richmond. If the WX is ok, I will be in the park.


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