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panda-k-bear 27th Apr 2005 10:47

Plus a lot of water ballast...

Localiser Green 27th Apr 2005 10:50


4-5 hours worth of fuel, no pax and only 20 tons of test gear.
But as I understand, the engines are also de-rated at present, they will only be rated to their design thrust later in the test program.

And I think they would have more than 1 hours fuel continegncy for the 4 hour test flight, more like 6-8 hours FOB?

Raggyman 27th Apr 2005 10:53

I wonder if the Internet had existed how many people would have been discussing the latest visit to the hardware shop by the Wright brothers, "You want to do what!! with cloth, wood and sting?, That will never work".

Besides, always like the saying, you put enough power behind something, you can guarantee it will fly.

I honestly don't know what the big commotion is about whether or not this thing would fly, and especially comments from the Boeing camps, the whole US - Europe thing is honestly just stupid. If you take all that BS out of the equation, it is a step forward, great that it is flying, and it is an amazing engineering feat. Mind you probably not that amazing when you really think about it as there are much larger planes flying. Ok, it has two decks, but is it really that radically different? If you are thinking that it is radically different, I would like to ask what you think makes it radically different to the other aircraft that are flying today? If it had been designed to carry passengers in the wing, then yeah, I think that I would have reservations that it would fly as it is expected.

I am however a little afraid of composites in the manufacture of aircraft, but then again, the company who built the first metal airframe probably coped the same flack. I guess time will tell.

Anyhow, my congratulations to the engineering team, construction and the rest of the Airbus team, where ever you are. Think you should be proud of your achievement, whether you are French, Bristish, Spanish, German or Martian.

Queenslander 27th Apr 2005 10:55

747FOCAL, you have been VERY quiet, anything wrong………oops silly me, I forgot, it’s not a boeing………:p

wub 27th Apr 2005 10:56

Sky News journo interviewing British test pilot just before first take off:

"I understand one of the pilots has a background in acrobatics, I don't expect we'll see much of that today?"

British TP: "Er, no...."

Where do they get these people?

Well done Airbus, now produce a stretched version that will look right.

JamesT73J 27th Apr 2005 10:58

Raggyman,

I think it's just the sheer scale of it. Those of us outside of the profession tend to be awed first and think of the four forces later, whereas I expect most aviation professionals would look at the A380 with a more practiced eye.

It's just nice to be excited about something this, well, cool!

BRS_Dispatch 27th Apr 2005 11:01

Just watched the Sky News report again and the reporter said

Boeing were very impressed......
Then she corrected herself to say Airbus.

The only word I can find to discribe the take off is awsome. Simply awsome.

Raggyman 27th Apr 2005 11:03

wub - Yeah, it is very painful. I often wonder where these News Channels get their presenters from. Was worse during the Tsunami... was half expecting a comment along the lines of, "So it was a wave bigger than what you would normally get on the coast?"

Anyhow, always best to mute the sound and make up your own commentary, you would probably come out the other side alot more informed than the dribble they carry on with.

Any Australians would know Roy and HG, wonder how they would have covered it. Definitely would have been interesting.

panda-k-bear 27th Apr 2005 11:03

I'm sure Boeing were very impressed too.

Weren't they FOCAL?

Raggyman 27th Apr 2005 11:08

JamesT73J - Yeah, the scale of it is pretty amazing. I noticed from the photo how much dust was stired up just as it is taking off. Definitely going to be interesting if you are a plane taking off after it, they might have to wait a while for the dust to settle, especially in a place that has just gone through a drought.

Just for interest, does a 747 stir up as much dust? Admittedly it isn't alot of dust, but then again is TLS a wet place?

NigelOnDraft 27th Apr 2005 11:10

Airbus site says took off at 421T (v MTOW 560T) - and says that is highest civil airliner weight (Boeing quotes -400 at 397T)

afterdark 27th Apr 2005 11:10

the in flight video updates from chase aircraft and air to air shots are great on sky news

great publicity set up by airbus udating as we go along

this must be the most media covered aircraft's first flight , ever in the history of aviation... ( or in europe anyway )and the threads of will it ...wont it ,get off the ground

cant wait to see the fly past and the landing to see if it as uneventfull and smooth as first take off

Panman 27th Apr 2005 11:12

Air to Air stream just finished, something like 40 minutes of video, saw the undercarriage retract and a few maneuvers with flaps extended before stream finished.

airship 27th Apr 2005 11:23

Did they roll it yet?

Boeing impressed a lot of folks when they did that with the 707... :O

catchup 27th Apr 2005 11:25

@airship

Yes, that's why the video stream finished. Top secret.

:cool:

cascade07 27th Apr 2005 11:27

...how about a cuban eight or a victory roll....!!!!!!

panda-k-bear 27th Apr 2005 11:36

Must run - got to get back to my pitch cos she's coming in any time in the next 20 minutes or so!

rotornut 27th Apr 2005 12:06

Check out the video at:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4488361.stm

Shamjet 27th Apr 2005 12:08

Can't wait to see the fly by>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Here she comes>>>>>>>>>>>

Here she comes>>>>>>>>>>>

Here she comes>>>>>>>>>>>

Maniac618 27th Apr 2005 12:14

Just seen the news on the 1 o'clock news.

It could have 840 seats!

Damn :ok:


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