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STANDTO 8th Jan 2005 20:46

Capt H.

I believe a Mr Collister of PSM has a spare shed which turned up in his garden this morning.

I went for a drive round this afternoon - its like Beirut! I was watching what I thought was lightning at 0530 this morning. It was actually the power lines into the next street arcing.

Bad enough on the ground. Mother has just got into Barcelona after a scheduled dept with EZY from LPL this morning at 0530 ish.
She can't get her next leg to MAH until 0700.

However, worse things happen at sea:

FISHER GERMAN BIGHT
WEST OR NORTHWEST STORM 10 TOHURRICANE 12 GRADUALLY BACKING
SOUTHWEST 6 TO GALE 8. SHOWERS. MODERATE OR GOOD

Somedaymaybe 8th Jan 2005 21:51

Air Wales Victim of High Winds?
 
Dear All,

Before we get started on the negative replies i must state that this is purely a well intentioned post!

Rumour has it that an Air wales ATR42 was blown over in the early hours of the 08th jan in high winds at CWL, the aircraft was parked on stand and is beleived to have been hit so hard that it toppled onto its side.

Damage is not yet known, can anyone please fill in the blanks on what actually happened?

SDM :ok:

CWL_Pontypridd 8th Jan 2005 21:57

I haven't heard anything as of yet, I guess that if this is true they will have to get in an aircraft to cover operations..

There is some news of them taking them on a few extra ATR's


Regards,

Chris

Hand Shandy 8th Jan 2005 22:08

one wing did look pretty close to the ground due to the overnight parking arrangements but the aircraft were then positioned into wind with no damage. This is a fairly common occurence with high wing ac particularly the shorts 360`s and it`s not unheard of for a tip scrape on the atr .

UPSAirOps 8th Jan 2005 22:49

Electric Six - last time we checked with ATC would've been about 0430/0500 so around that time yeah.

By 0530 the decision had been made that our flight was going nowhere...

PAXboy 8th Jan 2005 23:17

My mother lives in Castletown - about five miles from IOM. They were told that it was storm force 10 and that Ronaldsway had clocked the wind at 93mph.

Certainly the worst that she has encountered in her 25 years on the island.

Daysleeper 8th Jan 2005 23:32

so if we ignore the tops of scottish/welsh mountains, Any ideas what the UK + Ireland record for the highest windspeed on a civilised location is.

Big Tudor 9th Jan 2005 00:40

Daysleeper,

I guess civilised rules out Stornoway which recorded 120mph (IIRC) just before the anometer was blown over the cliff.

Flip Flop Flyer 9th Jan 2005 07:35

60 gusting 100 kts in Western Denmark yesterday, 5 people died from falling trees and other debris. 70.000 people lost power, and some here moaning about not being able to land at planned destination.

ironbutt57 9th Jan 2005 07:50

applicable TAF would be..."more of the same unless it changes" ;)

STANDTO 9th Jan 2005 08:53

PaxBoy

Castletown is ON the isle of man, not five miles from it

- unless of course, the weather was that bad that a big chunk blew off. As long as it took Janet's Corner with it I don't see to big a problem.


I am, of course, just jesting. I knew what you meant!

:p

SR71 9th Jan 2005 08:53


Good luck into the LCY..... we have had reports (on Thames) of moderate to severe turbulence on departure, and an inbound North West of Detling gave the 3000 feet wind as 254/69
31/01/04
TAF EGFF 310431Z 311206 25025G40KT 9999 BKN025 TEMPO 1206 5000 RA SCT010 BKN014 1521 27038G65

We landed (my girlfriend had to go around twice trying to get into EGGD the same day) but the wind at 500ft was > 80kts!

It was an interesting month.

On 11/01/04 we had FU reported on the TAF and a waterspout showed up the Severn Estuary about a mile from my house. Wind was 28028G50 that day.

:ok:

StressFree 9th Jan 2005 09:53

Standto,
I think Paxboy meant 5 miles from the IOM VOR, which I once heard called "ten mike" by an American pilot........

:cool:

Jeffrey S 9th Jan 2005 11:40

Came back from FAO to EGCC yesterday @ 1410. Really turbulent all the way down from Liverpool. Winds 40kts Gusting. The worst turbulence I've witnessed for ages.

:} :\

PAXboy 9th Jan 2005 13:41

Thanks chaps ;) I used 'IOM' as I have no idea what it's E-letters are. I can never remember which is ICAO and which is the other. So I just use the three letter codes that us humble pax know.

Certainly some of the GAs and 1900s and even ATPs at Ronaldsway must have been feeling skittish.

I gather that the TV aerial companies think that it's Christmas all over again!

--------------------
"I tell you, we are here on Earth to fart around, and don't let anybody tell you any different." Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

crazypilot 9th Jan 2005 15:29

FYI PAXboy,

3-letter codes = IATA eg LHR
4-letter codes = ICAO eg EGLL

Cheers

CP

LoeyDaFrog 9th Jan 2005 16:14

I remember arriving at work (one of the hangers that used to occupy the southside of MCR) one day after a 'bit of a hooley' to see the B747 that had been impounded for not paying it's bills seemed to have moved. Being the good little ops type that I (still) am, i phoned up the Ops Mgr and told him so. Yeah yeah yeah was the soryt of response, followed about three hours later by a 'thanks for that, sorry I was a bit rude' as said B747 had indeed been pushed back onto the grass by about 25 feet.
Mother nature, never ceases to amaze and humble.

viking737 9th Jan 2005 17:07

Anyone's company ops specs have any max wind limits?
Mine says max wind for landing 5o kts unless it is an emergency.

STANDTO 9th Jan 2005 17:22

I'd say it is an emergency if the option is being stuck up there all night

Johnny F@rt Pants 9th Jan 2005 20:19

Surprised nobody has mentioned Leeds, at least almost all the airports mentioned have runways in the general direction of the south westerly gales. Leeds has R/W 32/14, so it's absolutely dead across the runway, and there's the hills and dales just to add to the turbulence factor. The whole week has been crosswind gusting over 35kts, but we get used to that at Leeds, but yesterday was a belter, nothing moved till well after lunchtime. What a day for a colleague of mine to be doing his line check for his command upgrade!!!:rolleyes:


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