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Concorde aog at JFK

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Old 7th Aug 2003, 00:08
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Concorde aog at JFK

Apparently one concorde is aog at JFK. Departed LHR 5/8 and landed JFK having shut down #3 engine at some point. On ground it was discovered that the firewall between #3 and #4 had burnt through. Requires both engines to be taken off to fix.
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Did the aircraft return to London this evening ? I saw a Concorde over Knightsbridge on approach to LHR this evening around 8pm.

The return flight is showing on the BA website as cancelled.
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BA must be looking forward to October when they can get rid of Concorde. Sad to say it but the old bird seems to be getting a bit past it. Never thought I would hear myself say it but the time has come for it bow out gracefully and I think BA are doing the right thing. They may wish that they had stopped a little earlier.
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G-BOAD returned last night (6th Aug)
G-BOAC was on the LHR-JFK flight
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How do you find out exactly when and what time Concorde flies?
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I find http://www.flightarrivals.com to be pretty accurate (only for flights to/ from and within the US though).

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BA0002 has a predicted arrival time of 19:09 this evening - anybody know why ?
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I hope you're taking the p*ss - or this website is going to get very full if we diagnose every time a flight is 1 hour late!

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alexis_lambert,

Departing Heathrow BA001 is scheduled off blocks at 1830L. If its ontime expect take off at the following times:

Runway 27R 1850-1900

Runway 09L 1855-1905

Concorde does not depart from 27L/09R

Arriving into Heathrow BA002 is scheduled to arrive "on stand" at 1800L but it could "land" as early as 1715L. Best check BAA or BA website for estimated arrival time.

Concorde will land on which ever runway is active for arrivals.

Hope this helps.
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On ground it was discovered that the firewall between #3 and #4 had burnt through. Requires both engines to be taken off to fix.
Actually a pneumatic duct clamp had failed and the resulting hot air leak caused the fire warning, The damage consisted of heat damage to the fibreglass insulation blanket which has been replaced. It did not require engine removal and it did not burn through the firewall!
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re:

Did it just return as BA9150?
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Re: BA2 7th Aug

Was 90 mins late out of JFK due to minimum rest time limits for crew arriving on BA1 the night before - they had to stop in Gander on their way to JFK and hence the extra time needed.

BA2 would have made up more time if we didn't have to hold over Weybridge.

Top flight - Thanks to all concerned !!

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Stop at Gander?
Just like in the old days, with the Stratocruiser.

My, how the N Atlantic aviation scene has come full circle.
Bring back the 1649's and DC7C's....at least they could make it nonstop
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What was the reason for Concorde's unscheduled arrival in Gander?

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Well, the media has reported it as a re-fueliing stop due to high fuel burn due high air temps at the moment. Wait to be corrected.
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Cool

On the flight path to Heathrow and look out the window every time I hear her, she continues to be irrisistable and all the more so when I realise she will be gone soon.

Guessing that it was due a re-release requirement on the Gander stop RollingT.

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The Gander stopover was for performance issues on the dept and climbout from LHR due to the heat.

Crew had a fuel plan for both but Gander always looked likely as the a/c was BA heaviest (G-BOAC) and it was full with 100 pax.

The BA001 the following day was delayed by 90mins to allow the temp to drop down to around 27/28C, so that a stop would not be required.
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Given the temperature, I expect that we shall have the same again today.

Note that I cannot resist saying 'we'? I am scheduled on BA0001 today and still cannot believe that it is going to happen. All the years and now ... tell you about it later!
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What was the reason for Concorde's unscheduled arrival in Gander?

Unusually high temperature is the reason. Not sure if this is cruise alt related having never been up there, or lower fuel sg due high ambient.
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