RYANAIR.......WHY SO FAST!! (Seemingly)
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RYANAIR.......WHY SO FAST!! (Seemingly)
An observation if I may..........
Having just returned from honeymoon (Howth) Dublin, I was amazed when my wife happened to comment that she thought the Ryanair 73's seem to be flying very fast when compared to EI and other airlines on the same approach into Dublin.
As local guys will know, Howth is on the approach into Dub RWY 28. In respect of this, are Ryanair drivers exceeding their speed limits here? As a point of interest, when we arrived at Dub, one of our Pilot's, presumably the Skipper actually shutdown both engines, as we rolled towards the gate........Safe practice, ummmmmm???!!!
Before we left, we watched a few buses landing on 28. Again, even my wife commented that the Ryanair 73's were taxing at ridiculous speeds!!!
Even on our return, I clocked a very young looking F/O performing a walk around on another departing flight. Suffice to say, it was laughable, it took him all of 1.5 mins!!! He didn't even look up to check the control surfaces, he kicked the front tyre, not even looking inside the gear bays, and just tapped the port engine cowling, let alone checking the starboard engine.......However, I can report that the F/O our return flight was far more thorough, and just as well!! Now forgive me, but complacency may cost nothing, but lives do.
At the end of the day, surely it's better to get somewhere late, than never!!.................
Please slow down guys, forget what the management targets are about and the demands these put on you all and get back to the safe and professional practices that you were trained in from day one.
Cheers & all the best.
C.N. (& his wife LOL!)
Having just returned from honeymoon (Howth) Dublin, I was amazed when my wife happened to comment that she thought the Ryanair 73's seem to be flying very fast when compared to EI and other airlines on the same approach into Dublin.
As local guys will know, Howth is on the approach into Dub RWY 28. In respect of this, are Ryanair drivers exceeding their speed limits here? As a point of interest, when we arrived at Dub, one of our Pilot's, presumably the Skipper actually shutdown both engines, as we rolled towards the gate........Safe practice, ummmmmm???!!!
Before we left, we watched a few buses landing on 28. Again, even my wife commented that the Ryanair 73's were taxing at ridiculous speeds!!!
Even on our return, I clocked a very young looking F/O performing a walk around on another departing flight. Suffice to say, it was laughable, it took him all of 1.5 mins!!! He didn't even look up to check the control surfaces, he kicked the front tyre, not even looking inside the gear bays, and just tapped the port engine cowling, let alone checking the starboard engine.......However, I can report that the F/O our return flight was far more thorough, and just as well!! Now forgive me, but complacency may cost nothing, but lives do.
At the end of the day, surely it's better to get somewhere late, than never!!.................
Please slow down guys, forget what the management targets are about and the demands these put on you all and get back to the safe and professional practices that you were trained in from day one.
Cheers & all the best.
C.N. (& his wife LOL!)
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I know for a fact Ryanair fly very fast approaches into DUB. I operate into there occasionally from LGW, and on one occasion we had a line up clearance cancelled after the ATCO reported an aircraft at 13 miles out doing 300 knots! We waited, and sure enough a Ryanair 737 came into view on the approach.
I believe a lot of their guys manange the energy differently on the approach, in that they dive off the height, get down to say 3000 feet, and then lose the speed when level before intercepting the glide. Fair enough I guess providing its safe, but the risk of a rushed approach is a lot higher.
I believe a lot of their guys manange the energy differently on the approach, in that they dive off the height, get down to say 3000 feet, and then lose the speed when level before intercepting the glide. Fair enough I guess providing its safe, but the risk of a rushed approach is a lot higher.
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Fast... to do security check during turnaround
Capt. Numpty,
same comment about turnaround time. We saw a Ryanair 737-800 in front of us arriving on stand. Passengers got off in a few minutes. Then I saw a Cabin Crew sitting on her crew seat through the left foward door for 2 or 3 minutes after the last pax got off.
Then the boarding started... So in 2 or 3 minutes, the crew completed a cabin security check and cleaned the aircraft, for all the 180 seats!!! And that with one of them sitting on her crew seat !!!
Pretty good, I thought...
MOL keeps on boasting himself on his on time performance compared to other operators, but is it really safe?
I was in STN following a Ryanair aircraft after landing. My company is very strict about taxi speed. And we saw the Ryanair aircraft "disappearing" in the horizon... Before we arrived on stand.
Do they get bonuses if they are on time or what? I would be interested to know... That could explain a few things...
same comment about turnaround time. We saw a Ryanair 737-800 in front of us arriving on stand. Passengers got off in a few minutes. Then I saw a Cabin Crew sitting on her crew seat through the left foward door for 2 or 3 minutes after the last pax got off.
Then the boarding started... So in 2 or 3 minutes, the crew completed a cabin security check and cleaned the aircraft, for all the 180 seats!!! And that with one of them sitting on her crew seat !!!
Pretty good, I thought...
MOL keeps on boasting himself on his on time performance compared to other operators, but is it really safe?
I was in STN following a Ryanair aircraft after landing. My company is very strict about taxi speed. And we saw the Ryanair aircraft "disappearing" in the horizon... Before we arrived on stand.
Do they get bonuses if they are on time or what? I would be interested to know... That could explain a few things...
Dear God, don't you people ever get tired of going over and over the same half-informed/ill-informed claptrap?
This subject has already been done to death a dozen times on pprune.
This subject has already been done to death a dozen times on pprune.
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one could always take a train ...... no one ever complains about slow trains !!!!!! ......
I some times think Danny must have a "heart of gold" and the "patience of a saint" !!!!
cheers .... hobie
I some times think Danny must have a "heart of gold" and the "patience of a saint" !!!!
cheers .... hobie
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JW411......
Comment all noted, however if this is so boring to you......why are you reading it, let alone making a sarcy posting!!
FYI, my wife is not a Pilot, and she is the one who happened to notice this.......Doesn't that say something about what members of the public/ spectators are seeing???
C.N.
Comment all noted, however if this is so boring to you......why are you reading it, let alone making a sarcy posting!!
FYI, my wife is not a Pilot, and she is the one who happened to notice this.......Doesn't that say something about what members of the public/ spectators are seeing???
C.N.
People have sometimes alleged that RyanAir taxy speeds are a bit quick.
But have you ever been in a Eurowings ATR72 'taxying' from the easternmost parking slot at Frankfurt to the southerly runway.....? Unbelievable!!
Err, that's real Frankfurt, Mo'L, not that place in the Mosel.
Sorry Danny
But have you ever been in a Eurowings ATR72 'taxying' from the easternmost parking slot at Frankfurt to the southerly runway.....? Unbelievable!!
Err, that's real Frankfurt, Mo'L, not that place in the Mosel.
Sorry Danny
Ryanair do have an enviable safety record though.
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Your profile says you are a pilot....
a pilot of what??? no ratings???
If you knew anything of flying you would know that aircraft on an approach are speed restricted generally for spacing.
Also from the ground to the un trained eye the aircraft may look faster than you think and as you say "your wife is not a pilot" so she wouldn't have a trained eye in relation to aircraft.
Taxi speeds yes perhaps a bit fast but then again the air traffic ground controller would definately advise any aircraft taxiing at a high speed that would seem to be dangerous.....again the trained eye....sitting in the back of a B737 looking out the side window it may look fast...but what was their actual speed??
Were you jump seating to observe...
Shutting down one engine taxiing in.....well in the US it is very common to see aircraft taxiing out to the holding point and in to the gate on just 1 engine to conserve fuel.
Just how far were you from the blocks position when the captain shut down the second...again a view from the side window doesn't tell you much.
Now on to the age of pilots.....well some may look very young but they will have passed all the necessary requirements set down by the department i.e. the IAA and have to pass tests every so often and are subject to ramp checks too.......but being a pilot yourself im sure you knew that already!!!
As for a walk around....well most pilots will do a light walkaround because the aircraft engineers will have already checked the required areas.....it is they who sign the Tech log book which is counter signed by the Captain....but then again being a pilot you knew that already!!!
You just have a grudge against FR it seems perhaps they lost your bags on you???
This is a rubbish post from you anyways......why did i reply well i just wanted you to read what REALLY goes on in the REAL world...but then again being a PILOT you knew that already!!!!
Go back to your anorak
a pilot of what??? no ratings???
If you knew anything of flying you would know that aircraft on an approach are speed restricted generally for spacing.
Also from the ground to the un trained eye the aircraft may look faster than you think and as you say "your wife is not a pilot" so she wouldn't have a trained eye in relation to aircraft.
Taxi speeds yes perhaps a bit fast but then again the air traffic ground controller would definately advise any aircraft taxiing at a high speed that would seem to be dangerous.....again the trained eye....sitting in the back of a B737 looking out the side window it may look fast...but what was their actual speed??
Were you jump seating to observe...
Shutting down one engine taxiing in.....well in the US it is very common to see aircraft taxiing out to the holding point and in to the gate on just 1 engine to conserve fuel.
Just how far were you from the blocks position when the captain shut down the second...again a view from the side window doesn't tell you much.
Now on to the age of pilots.....well some may look very young but they will have passed all the necessary requirements set down by the department i.e. the IAA and have to pass tests every so often and are subject to ramp checks too.......but being a pilot yourself im sure you knew that already!!!
As for a walk around....well most pilots will do a light walkaround because the aircraft engineers will have already checked the required areas.....it is they who sign the Tech log book which is counter signed by the Captain....but then again being a pilot you knew that already!!!
You just have a grudge against FR it seems perhaps they lost your bags on you???
This is a rubbish post from you anyways......why did i reply well i just wanted you to read what REALLY goes on in the REAL world...but then again being a PILOT you knew that already!!!!
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Taff, Air New Zealand had an enviable safety record until Mt Erebus, as did the Titanic until she was driven at full speed into an iceberg...
And Stargazer. "Light walkround" What the hell is that???????? Never heard of it in 20 yrs flying. Failure to do a proper walkround is a hanging offence in any aviation circle I've ever been in, so I hate to think where you got that one from.
Engineers sign your tech log? Maybe they do sign for the walkround if you are lucky enough to have engineers to do that at every stop, but they sure as hell don't sign acceptance for the airplane, again I've never heard of anyone accepting without one or other of the pilots doing their own. if you don't get engineers every stop (as in my Co) then do you have two different walkrounds? One proper one, and one token one, sorry, "Lite" walkround when you trust someone else has done your life-saver for you? Do you say to the FO, "Oh, Bloggs, do us a Walkround Lite please?".
FR taxi high speed? We all know it is a company characteristic. Anywhere they operate people point them out as they hurtle past on a regular basis. Maybe they are on "on time" bonus. If so its a bloody risky policy. I'd hate to see their lawyers try to wriggle out of the subsequent lawsuit in the event of a taxy accident if that is the case.
I frequently watch them on approach at a major UK field, and it is plain to see on almost every approach that FR deploy gear and flaps 15 at least a mile beyond where every other 737 does. That is not imagined. Go sit abeam 4 mile finals somewhere for an hour or so and watch it happen. It is NOT a myth.
Shutting down both and coasting onto a stand? I'd have thought that a gross breach of good airmanship and a hanging offence too even in a flying club environment. To do it in a public transport aeroplane seems unbelieveable. Again, maybe I've led a sheltered life in Europe, but I've never heard of taxiing out on one engine "to save fuel". Shutting one down on the way in has been mooted on occasion but again I've never actually seen or heard it done. Why? Save a 3 litres of gas perhaps?
As you said, Stargazer, there is the real world that incorporates Professionalism and good airmanship and there is an environment infested with cowboys. Which one do you aspire to?
And Stargazer. "Light walkround" What the hell is that???????? Never heard of it in 20 yrs flying. Failure to do a proper walkround is a hanging offence in any aviation circle I've ever been in, so I hate to think where you got that one from.
Engineers sign your tech log? Maybe they do sign for the walkround if you are lucky enough to have engineers to do that at every stop, but they sure as hell don't sign acceptance for the airplane, again I've never heard of anyone accepting without one or other of the pilots doing their own. if you don't get engineers every stop (as in my Co) then do you have two different walkrounds? One proper one, and one token one, sorry, "Lite" walkround when you trust someone else has done your life-saver for you? Do you say to the FO, "Oh, Bloggs, do us a Walkround Lite please?".
FR taxi high speed? We all know it is a company characteristic. Anywhere they operate people point them out as they hurtle past on a regular basis. Maybe they are on "on time" bonus. If so its a bloody risky policy. I'd hate to see their lawyers try to wriggle out of the subsequent lawsuit in the event of a taxy accident if that is the case.
I frequently watch them on approach at a major UK field, and it is plain to see on almost every approach that FR deploy gear and flaps 15 at least a mile beyond where every other 737 does. That is not imagined. Go sit abeam 4 mile finals somewhere for an hour or so and watch it happen. It is NOT a myth.
Shutting down both and coasting onto a stand? I'd have thought that a gross breach of good airmanship and a hanging offence too even in a flying club environment. To do it in a public transport aeroplane seems unbelieveable. Again, maybe I've led a sheltered life in Europe, but I've never heard of taxiing out on one engine "to save fuel". Shutting one down on the way in has been mooted on occasion but again I've never actually seen or heard it done. Why? Save a 3 litres of gas perhaps?
As you said, Stargazer, there is the real world that incorporates Professionalism and good airmanship and there is an environment infested with cowboys. Which one do you aspire to?
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Given FRA's shorthaul high density sectors I think it likely that they have already well outstripped Air NZ's take off and landing tally and thus arguably have a better safety record - if thats how you choose to measure it and many do.
The Titanic has the worst safety record of any man made mass transportation device.
So I don't see your point. I'm no great fan of Ryanair but I think it unfair when people hurl safety related criticism at them when they have a damn fine safety record built over a lot of busy sectors, through busy airspace to sometimes minimal facility destinations.
Anyway, I always thought it was going too slowly in aeroplanes that was dangerous...?!
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The Titanic has the worst safety record of any man made mass transportation device.
So I don't see your point. I'm no great fan of Ryanair but I think it unfair when people hurl safety related criticism at them when they have a damn fine safety record built over a lot of busy sectors, through busy airspace to sometimes minimal facility destinations.
Anyway, I always thought it was going too slowly in aeroplanes that was dangerous...?!
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No mate, nothing wrong with the Titanic as a mass transportation system at all. She was a ship, one of the safest systems we have, and a fine one at that.
One individual incident does not indicate much, if anything about safety, any more than a lack of incidents does. She was far, far safer than any before her and was as unsinkable as the technology of the day could make her. Even by todays standards she was proof against all but the most extreme of circunstances, yet fate took charge as we all know. The failure in the Titanic case was human, operational. The Captain drove her at an utterly irresponsible speed for the prevailing conditions,lifeboat drills were virtually ignored and design re insufficient lifeboats contributed also. Nothing wrong with the ship, any more tan the DC10 wa at fault at Mt Erebus. It wa the sloppy procedures in the company that caused the crash. Was Air NZ "safe" before the accident, and "unsafe" afterwards? Hell no! The procedures made the operation inherently more hazardous than it needeed to have been.
If a company encourages ot ignores high speed taxying then it clearly exposes itself to more risk than one that does not. Do they/don't they? Use your eyes. The answer is plain to all.
Fast approaches? Just go sit abeam 4 mile finals and watch where different coloured 737s configure gear and flap 15. What you'll see is pretty clear, from my experience of observation. There is one colour combination that does it a mile closer to the field than everyone else. Who do you reckon they are?
One individual incident does not indicate much, if anything about safety, any more than a lack of incidents does. She was far, far safer than any before her and was as unsinkable as the technology of the day could make her. Even by todays standards she was proof against all but the most extreme of circunstances, yet fate took charge as we all know. The failure in the Titanic case was human, operational. The Captain drove her at an utterly irresponsible speed for the prevailing conditions,lifeboat drills were virtually ignored and design re insufficient lifeboats contributed also. Nothing wrong with the ship, any more tan the DC10 wa at fault at Mt Erebus. It wa the sloppy procedures in the company that caused the crash. Was Air NZ "safe" before the accident, and "unsafe" afterwards? Hell no! The procedures made the operation inherently more hazardous than it needeed to have been.
If a company encourages ot ignores high speed taxying then it clearly exposes itself to more risk than one that does not. Do they/don't they? Use your eyes. The answer is plain to all.
Fast approaches? Just go sit abeam 4 mile finals and watch where different coloured 737s configure gear and flap 15. What you'll see is pretty clear, from my experience of observation. There is one colour combination that does it a mile closer to the field than everyone else. Who do you reckon they are?
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Does anyone have a view about the rights or wrongs of using short bursts of reverse thrust as a braking device while taxi-ing and even coming to a stop on the ramp ? I have seen this from on board a Ryanair 737-200 at Stansted (but only once, a few years back). I am myself neither particularly for nor against Ryanair.
As for the Titanic, it was indeed a pretty safe vessel for its day, or should have been. It sank due to a whole range of human factors shortcomings, of the sort that usually lead to major air disasters. The primary ones were the decision not to have enough lifeboats and a certain human pride in trying to make a faster than planned crossing. The old Swiss cheese theory.
As for the Titanic, it was indeed a pretty safe vessel for its day, or should have been. It sank due to a whole range of human factors shortcomings, of the sort that usually lead to major air disasters. The primary ones were the decision not to have enough lifeboats and a certain human pride in trying to make a faster than planned crossing. The old Swiss cheese theory.
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Frs coming into EGGP had to be warned to slow down on taxi as we were sick of scraping the rubber off the 27 ret
Seems to have done the trick as its very rare to see a speeding Ryanair these days
Seems to have done the trick as its very rare to see a speeding Ryanair these days
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Your comments, some of which I found to be sarcastic and offensive are duly noted.
With regards to my personnel details, they are exactly that! I have no need to share these here, or particularly with folk like you. However, for the avoidance of any doubt, and to enlighten YOU a little further, I am currently on the B-777, and have held various ratings on other types too........However, lets not forget my friend that size doesn't matter, or does it to you?????
"BIG THINGS START SMALL" little boy.
Anyway, get a life wannabe, as me thinks you are possibly just a FR driver (with an attitude to add) who is probably p.o.'d with the industry constantly having a go?? As I mentioned it was just an observation and nothing more than that.
Suffice to say, no offense intended, goodnight.
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Your comments, some of which I found to be sarcastic and offensive are duly noted.
With regards to my personnel details, they are exactly that! I have no need to share these here, or particularly with folk like you. However, for the avoidance of any doubt, and to enlighten YOU a little further, I am currently on the B-777, and have held various ratings on other types too........However, lets not forget my friend that size doesn't matter, or does it to you?????
"BIG THINGS START SMALL" little boy.
Anyway, get a life wannabe, as me thinks you are possibly just a FR driver (with an attitude to add) who is probably p.o.'d with the industry constantly having a go?? As I mentioned it was just an observation and nothing more than that.
Suffice to say, no offense intended, goodnight.
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This entire threat is totally laughable. And when people start to write and compare the Titanic with Ryanair and even state that the Titanic was a safe mass transportation device (disregarding any scientific findings about used steel quality, design faults, lack of life rafts, etc...) it makes me real wonder.... 
JW411 sumarized it all.
JW411 sumarized it all.
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This whole post is laughable.Any excuse to bash Ryanair! Listen people...facts- our safety record is perfect.Nobody can question that.Our procedure's are proper and within all the legal regulations.The pilot's are proffesional and do their job properly.Oh,I nearly forgot to say,our engineering is top class!!
What is all this b/s about putting the gear down 1 mile later than everybody else? For what advantage? Do you honestly believe the approach speeds flown by RYR are so tight that it would require this,consistently,every flight? Don't you all see that the RYR pilots are trained in exactly the same manner as pilot's of other airlines and hold the same licences and qualifications and operate to the same/similar company procedure's?
As for the fella saying that his flight needed reverse thrust in order to stop during the taxi! You don't know what you are talking about.You obviously have absolutely no idea so why comment on something when you are clearly not in the position to do so? Anyone that has taxied a -200 will tell you how effective the wheel brakes are.I must admit I have only taxied empty aircraft but let me tell you that if you operate the brakes with anything more than a gentle push with the toes then the thing will stop immediatly.Just how effective do you think reverse thrust would be at a ground speed of 20-30 knots with the engine at idle?
Could it not have been that the crew were cycling the reverser on the taxi-in to check an inication fault or something?
This is a question,yes,I have seen the crew shut down the engines 10ft or so before the stop bar and coast to a stop but why would this be such a henious crime? I can think of no reason and would be interested to see if there is one.To my mind,the APU would obviously be running so no probs with electrical power so elec hyd pumps are working for brake pressure [ignoring the accumulator],packs still supplied by APU air,obviously no more requirement for forward thrust so what possible purpose is there for having the engines running? Would like to hear any reason's I have overlooked.
As for the Titanic....0% despatch reliability me thinks,well OK 100% despatch reliability but 0% arrival reliability
What is all this b/s about putting the gear down 1 mile later than everybody else? For what advantage? Do you honestly believe the approach speeds flown by RYR are so tight that it would require this,consistently,every flight? Don't you all see that the RYR pilots are trained in exactly the same manner as pilot's of other airlines and hold the same licences and qualifications and operate to the same/similar company procedure's?
As for the fella saying that his flight needed reverse thrust in order to stop during the taxi! You don't know what you are talking about.You obviously have absolutely no idea so why comment on something when you are clearly not in the position to do so? Anyone that has taxied a -200 will tell you how effective the wheel brakes are.I must admit I have only taxied empty aircraft but let me tell you that if you operate the brakes with anything more than a gentle push with the toes then the thing will stop immediatly.Just how effective do you think reverse thrust would be at a ground speed of 20-30 knots with the engine at idle?
Could it not have been that the crew were cycling the reverser on the taxi-in to check an inication fault or something?
This is a question,yes,I have seen the crew shut down the engines 10ft or so before the stop bar and coast to a stop but why would this be such a henious crime? I can think of no reason and would be interested to see if there is one.To my mind,the APU would obviously be running so no probs with electrical power so elec hyd pumps are working for brake pressure [ignoring the accumulator],packs still supplied by APU air,obviously no more requirement for forward thrust so what possible purpose is there for having the engines running? Would like to hear any reason's I have overlooked.
As for the Titanic....0% despatch reliability me thinks,well OK 100% despatch reliability but 0% arrival reliability
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Captain Numpty:
I find it quite amazing that a pilot rated on a 777 was unable to explain to his wife that the speed at which aircraft fly the approach to runway 28 at Dublin past Howth is in fact regulated by Dublin ATC and not by Ryanair.
I have lost count of the number of times that I have been sent down to 2000 ft and asked by Dublin ATC to maintain high speed as long as possible on this approach. It is not a problem. They are in charge of the spacing and as long as it is safe, I am happy to oblige.
I have said this before but I'm going to say it again. Can you or your wife put your hands on your hearts and swear that you have never exceeded 30 mph when driving in a 30 mph speed limit? As far as I am aware, Ryanair have never injured or killed a single person whilst taxying. On the other hand, people just like you and me kill hundreds of pedestrians every year. Do I detect a whiff of hypocrisy?
In my company we do a comprehensive walkround before the first flight. On subsequent quick turnarounds the manufacturers and the company deem it sufficient to look at the engines, brakes, wheels and tyres and check for obvious leaks and airframe damage.
Finally, I am surprised that you, as a 777 driver would even consider taking your dearly beloved on honeymoon by Ryanair. Don't you get paid? In any event you certainly know how to show a young lady a good time!
I find it quite amazing that a pilot rated on a 777 was unable to explain to his wife that the speed at which aircraft fly the approach to runway 28 at Dublin past Howth is in fact regulated by Dublin ATC and not by Ryanair.
I have lost count of the number of times that I have been sent down to 2000 ft and asked by Dublin ATC to maintain high speed as long as possible on this approach. It is not a problem. They are in charge of the spacing and as long as it is safe, I am happy to oblige.
I have said this before but I'm going to say it again. Can you or your wife put your hands on your hearts and swear that you have never exceeded 30 mph when driving in a 30 mph speed limit? As far as I am aware, Ryanair have never injured or killed a single person whilst taxying. On the other hand, people just like you and me kill hundreds of pedestrians every year. Do I detect a whiff of hypocrisy?
In my company we do a comprehensive walkround before the first flight. On subsequent quick turnarounds the manufacturers and the company deem it sufficient to look at the engines, brakes, wheels and tyres and check for obvious leaks and airframe damage.
Finally, I am surprised that you, as a 777 driver would even consider taking your dearly beloved on honeymoon by Ryanair. Don't you get paid? In any event you certainly know how to show a young lady a good time!
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What is the Problem with fast taxiing ?
Common in the states, so long as corners are taken at the appropriate speed.
High speed turnoffs are allowed at 45 knts.
Aircraft land and take-off in straight lines up to 150 knts, and some are even permitted to land in crosswinds , not aligned with the runway centerline.
Remember fast walking pace, or was that for tiger moth.
Common in the states, so long as corners are taken at the appropriate speed.
High speed turnoffs are allowed at 45 knts.
Aircraft land and take-off in straight lines up to 150 knts, and some are even permitted to land in crosswinds , not aligned with the runway centerline.
Remember fast walking pace, or was that for tiger moth.