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Dubious Swiss Security? Victorinox rules!

Old 30th Dec 2002, 08:07
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Stainless steel!

You probably couldn't stab anyone with a Victoryknox. You could however very well cut someone's throat with it. Holding the knife against someones neck is far more threatning than stabbing. If you cut a persons primary artery in the neck the person will most certainly die.
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Old 31st Dec 2002, 03:52
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Cutting a single carotid artery or jugular vein, while extremely serious, is not inevitably fatal. Immediate and sustained pressure can control bleeding long enough to get the casualty to surgery. I have heard of at least one such injury to the neck caused by a hockey skate where the casualty survived because of immediate first aid.
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Old 31st Dec 2002, 12:15
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Try going through Frankfurt. My airline is X-rayed and physically searched. Alongside us is Royal Air Brunai and Malaysian, who are just waved through. On querying this with our station manager, I was told that unless the airlines country agrees to the search, it is not done.
It doesn't take a genius to work out that a member of these crews could be threatened or bribed to carry something airside and then hand it on to a passenger boarding any flight. There is no further security for passengers before boarding.
I'm glad to see that CDG have tightened up. Until recently, crews were driven to the A/C with no search. You could then wander up the airbridge into the terminal. Once again it only takes one crew member to be frightened into carrying something airside to make a complete nonsense of the millions spent on security by the state and by the airlines.
States should have the gumption to tell these countries - no search - don't bother coming.
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Old 31st Dec 2002, 14:52
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thedeadseawasonlysick:

Could the fact that Royal Brunei and Malaysian are both airlines from Muslim countries have some bearing on the matter?
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Old 1st Jan 2003, 10:10
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I didn't want to say that, but since you bought it up.
Most Western European countries tend to pussyfoot around when dealing with Third World countries. France in particular is always looking for future opportunities for it's industries and is reluctant to do or say anything to annoy unless their own interests are at stake, as is Germany.
Britain is not immune to this. Some years ago, a newspaper exposed the bribery involved in British companies winning contracts for the construction of a dam in Malaysia. What ever your feelings about bribery, it is a fact of life elsewhere in the world. The Malaysian Prime Minister, however, took exception to the expose and threatened to ban British imports. Instead of pointing out the realities of the situation i.e. Malaysia exports twice as much to Britain as we do to them, we sent them a grovelling apology. Banning the import of all Proton cars just might have given them pause for thought. It would certainly have helped the British car industry.
To get back to the subject, however. I don't know, but I think it extremely unlikely that the US allows these airlines to avoid security checks. So why does Germany?
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Old 1st Jan 2003, 11:12
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thedeadseawasonlysick:

I was not refering to corruption or the problems of the car industry. I simply wonder what kudos Al Qaeda and the like would gain by inflicting harm upon a Muslim airline?
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Old 3rd Jan 2003, 18:16
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Good heavens!

SWAK's on board aircraft, how is it possible that there has not yet been a terrrr attack via this golden opportunity?

Does anyone out there actually believe 9/11 could have been prevented by the confiscation of the "boxcutters' prior to the flight?

Please let sanity return!
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