Kuwait 777 high nose landing attitude at AMS
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Originally Posted by DIBO
minimal runway occupancy time, touchdown well beyond 1km from piano-keys
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safetypee
I'm sorry but that's a lot of garbage you just wrote. No need to be a philosopher to explain what happened. If you have ever flown a Boeing you know this landing was abnornal no matter how you look at it.
I'm sorry but that's a lot of garbage you just wrote. No need to be a philosopher to explain what happened. If you have ever flown a Boeing you know this landing was abnornal no matter how you look at it.
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Abnormal has many meanings, but to me it's simply a statistical occurence. that resulted in a safe outcome. To suggest that it might have been unwise depends on examination of many factors
From the passenger standpoint I doubt they even noticed
From the passenger standpoint I doubt they even noticed
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Originally Posted by parkfell
Would someone like to comment on the slow deployment of SPOILERS.
As soon as weight on wheels switch is activated the spoilers should work immediately?
As soon as weight on wheels switch is activated the spoilers should work immediately?
FCOM: "In the ARMED position, the speedbrake lever is driven aft to the UP position when the landing gear is fully on the ground (not tilted) and the thrust levers are at idle".
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I was looking at the windshield wipers in the second video.. way too detailed for a computer graphic. Not saying it wasnt heavily edited or enhanced but the plane looks real enough.
As for the wings not flexing, I guess it touched light.. look at the nosewheel extension ..
Anilv
As for the wings not flexing, I guess it touched light.. look at the nosewheel extension ..
Anilv
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I don't get the fuss.
Looks like the crew didn't have a perfect picture of the runway until very short final, due to the rain squall. Saw they were a tad low once out of the rain shaft and made an adjustment with pitch and power to extend the touchdown. Then bobbled the flare due to forgetting they were already in near-flare altitude but carrying power (which also negated the auto-spoilers) and ended up feeling for the ground and yanking the power back after touchdown.
Sloppy and not pretty, but I have seen much worse - without all the screams from the spotters, nor anyone questioning the video.
Looks like the crew didn't have a perfect picture of the runway until very short final, due to the rain squall. Saw they were a tad low once out of the rain shaft and made an adjustment with pitch and power to extend the touchdown. Then bobbled the flare due to forgetting they were already in near-flare altitude but carrying power (which also negated the auto-spoilers) and ended up feeling for the ground and yanking the power back after touchdown.
Sloppy and not pretty, but I have seen much worse - without all the screams from the spotters, nor anyone questioning the video.
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full
I don't get the fuss.
Looks like the crew didn't have a perfect picture of the runway until very short final, due to the rain squall. Saw they were a tad low once out of the rain shaft and made an adjustment with pitch and power to extend the touchdown. Then bobbled the flare due to forgetting they were already in near-flare altitude but carrying power (which also negated the auto-spoilers) and ended up feeling for the ground and yanking the power back after touchdown.
Sloppy and not pretty, but I have seen much worse - without all the screams from the spotters, nor anyone questioning the video.
Looks like the crew didn't have a perfect picture of the runway until very short final, due to the rain squall. Saw they were a tad low once out of the rain shaft and made an adjustment with pitch and power to extend the touchdown. Then bobbled the flare due to forgetting they were already in near-flare altitude but carrying power (which also negated the auto-spoilers) and ended up feeling for the ground and yanking the power back after touchdown.
Sloppy and not pretty, but I have seen much worse - without all the screams from the spotters, nor anyone questioning the video.
There is a certain time to give away the approach and that time had well passed in my book.
Spin it however you want, The training department won’t be impressed. Well I certainly wouldn’t be if they were dealing with me.
I wonder how recent they flew. Recency is going to be a big issue going forward for operators. We have already seen a few blunders in recent months.
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Looked like the rate of descent from 30 to 44 seconds was quite high (from this angle), then the float up to 51 seconds, then it looked like it was going to stall so nose down at the last seconds and landed on the runway. It would be interesting to know what the winds were like at that very second...
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I realize the camera lens foreshortens the distance and increases apparent angles but that exit speed and turn off from the centreline is nonetheless impressive- especially in the wet!
I wish they’d take the RETs like that here!!
I wish they’d take the RETs like that here!!
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Originally Posted by Bergerie1
Jumbo744,
I think safetypee knows a little more about flying than you do.
I think safetypee knows a little more about flying than you do.
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Flexing
Originally Posted by blue up
Am I missing something? The way the spoilers retract and the lack of wing flex upon landing looks like MS Flightsim 2020.
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How close were these people from the runway when the video was taken? Were they on the airside? We have all sat on the taxiways waiting for our turn to take-off. I have never seen a 777 float like that before. It may be possible if your Vref is very high, which means you are not on a stabilized approach. Any sane PIC would have called for a go around.
Fake news!
Fake news!
