Kuwait 777 high nose landing attitude at AMS
'Surprising' for a casual observer; the landing was different from the norm (their norm), but in the actual conditions, poor visibility, wet runway, gusty winds, - a good landing at the correct touchdown speed - as required.
Safety needs to look at what goes right, and not label the 'unusual' as an error; instead a well judged adjustment for the conditions.
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Safety needs to look at what goes right, and not label the 'unusual' as an error; instead a well judged adjustment for the conditions.
Pprune is an open, public, professional forum. It tolerates a wide range of views, but in return we could expect a considered opinion, or at least an understanding, an explanation of comments which covertly allocate blame.
Understanding provides the basis for learning - appreciating or resetting our 'norms', adding knowledge, and considering how to use this.
"I believe in evidence. I believe in observation, measurement, and reasoning, confirmed by independent observers.”— Isaac Asimov
https://fs.blog/2020/08/observer-effect/
Last edited by safetypee; 23rd Aug 2020 at 12:10. Reason: Blog and quote
possibly, also possible they suffered an undershoot shear sink and simply pulled back to stop the sink.....suffered a considerable speed loss and continued without adding thrust or indeed going around....
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Which video is fake?
Both look real to me, there is no 777 in FS2020 and that is most definitely a real background. The way the spoilers disappear is because of two clips being blended together.
Both look real to me, there is no 777 in FS2020 and that is most definitely a real background. The way the spoilers disappear is because of two clips being blended together.
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Your perception on reality has clearly been lost if you think either of those videos are not recorded in "real life."
Your perception on reality has clearly been lost if you think either of those videos are not recorded in "real life."
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The second is quite clearly not real.
First video looks like they shot a real video with no plane in it and added the CGI plane afterwards. The Dutch guy's verbal expressions of amazement are also extremely unconvincing. The YT account has no previous videos in it of any kind. A bit weird for a "Max Aviation" channel.
The second is quite clearly not real.
First video looks like they shot a real video with no plane in it and added the CGI plane afterwards. The Dutch guy's verbal expressions of amazement are also extremely unconvincing. The YT account has no previous videos in it of any kind. A bit weird for a "Max Aviation" channel.
I thought the long body 777's have a tail strike protection system in the autopilot that will command a pitch down in the landing flare if it senses a tail strike is imminent.
Yup second video definitely faked:
The grass is waving in the wind at the start - but the guy in field never twitches or changes his aiming point whatsoever,
At the point of touchdown (00.52 secs), the grass and tall wild flowers are rock steady,
At 2160p, (4K Def) the spray coming of the undercarriage looks CGI,
Finally, left wing correcting down when wind is from the right is just not on.
But even if it is MSFS, the rendering is better than anything I've seen so far.
The grass is waving in the wind at the start - but the guy in field never twitches or changes his aiming point whatsoever,
At the point of touchdown (00.52 secs), the grass and tall wild flowers are rock steady,
At 2160p, (4K Def) the spray coming of the undercarriage looks CGI,
Finally, left wing correcting down when wind is from the right is just not on.
But even if it is MSFS, the rendering is better than anything I've seen so far.
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Fake or not I wouldn't judge it on that guy. I can tell you that it was a warm day with short sharp local showers passing through. Different to Chester where it never stops raining!
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It is most definitely not from MSFS 2020, there is not even a 777 available for it.
If its CGI added on top of another video then its extremely well done. Speaking as a 777 pilot of nearly 12 yrs, look at the detail in the wheel wells, undercarriage, flap track fairings etc. Also the wobble in the tailpane, reflections in the fuselage and heat blur and depth of field when passing infront of the KLM 737.
Truly top drawer cgi if it is
If its CGI added on top of another video then its extremely well done. Speaking as a 777 pilot of nearly 12 yrs, look at the detail in the wheel wells, undercarriage, flap track fairings etc. Also the wobble in the tailpane, reflections in the fuselage and heat blur and depth of field when passing infront of the KLM 737.
Truly top drawer cgi if it is
Nothing fake.
This is the young guy who made the first video (or was it his girlfriend...) Here's the complete Dutch newspaper article.
Job well done minimal runway occupancy time, touchdown well beyond 1km from piano-keys, high speed exit at 2.4km
This is the young guy who made the first video (or was it his girlfriend...) Here's the complete Dutch newspaper article.
Job well done minimal runway occupancy time, touchdown well beyond 1km from piano-keys, high speed exit at 2.4km