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EK17 done two attempts in Manchester- and now off to AMS

Old 9th Feb 2020, 12:51
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EK17 done two attempts in Manchester- and now off to AMS

Anyone able to find out what EK17, Dubai to Manchester is doing? It arrived in the Uk did a lot of holding, two attempts at Manchester and is now off to Europe, possibly Amsterdam but itís very high compared to similar approaching aircraft

Any news and insight would be great. Seems like a massive diversion for some reason.

And here is the TAF as well TAF EHAM 091117Z 0912/1018 20031G45KT 9999 BKN018
BECMG 0913/0916 21036G52KT 5000 RADZ
TEMPO 0918/0921 24042G60KT 3000 +SHRA BKN012CB
BECMG 0919/0922 25031G47KT 9999 NSW SCT025
PROB30 TEMPO 0921/1007 26037G54KT 6000 SHRAGS SCT020CB
BKN025
BECMG 1013/1016 24028G42KT
PROB40 TEMPO 1016/1018 25035G52KT 6000 SHRAGS SCT018CB
BKN022=
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 12:53
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Can you read the METAR? Or a TAF?
Iíd say the diversion has something to do with it.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:05
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Originally Posted by Cralis View Post
two attempts at Manchester and is now off to Europe
Despite rumours to the contrary, Manchester is also in Europe.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:08
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Also EK15...heading back over France

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The weather might have something to do with it: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-51425482
Storm Ciara: Travel disruption as UK hit by severe gales
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A QR 380 has tried twice at EGLL now looking for elsewhere
going NW to Brum now

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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:25
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First airport with decent winds is Frankfurt. It's a huge storm system and the whole of Ireland, UK, Holland, Belgium and northern France has high winds.

We carried Frankfurt fuel but were lucky enough to get in on first go.
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Ladies and gents, this isn't news.

If you think you can come up with a better diversion option why don't you fly the plane yourself?
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:27
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Not just the UK but much of Northern Europe. Obviuosly EK17 decided AMS was okay for now. Perhaps simply because of the better choice of runways.
Ironically, with the low centred over the North of Scotland, the winds at Edinburgh are lighter. The isobars are most bunched over SE UK.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:29
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Interesting to see where EK 15 is headed, currently FL31 in Nancy/Metz area headed SE. Norwegian 787 headed for LGW earlier today went to Copenhagen (having initially looked as if going to Oslo).

Watching their tracks and point at which approaches were discontinued poses some questions which I will post in Spectator's Balcony.
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Weather history at MAN/EGCC shows 6 minutes of gusts to 75 kts. 1124-1130Z. That's impressive. Other than that the winds, and forecasts, are within 50 degrees of runway heading so the cross
winds should be within limits. Obviously when the winds are that strong, and might be stronger than forecast or slightly farther off of runway heading, limiting crosswind restrictions might be exceeded.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:37
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Must have been something like 20 go arounds in the last couple of hours into LHR. The controllers must be sweating like hell...

And seemingly a tail strike on the Qantas PER run.
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How many tens of tons extra fuel do the carry on the 380 in order to do several goaround and the divert to AMS?
AMS is not a very good alternate either, but the alternate selection for the 380 is limited.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:47
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem View Post
How many tens of tons extra fuel do the carry on the 380 in order to do several goaround and the divert to AMS?
AMS is not a very good alternate either, but the alternate selection for the 380 is limited.
It actually diverted to FRA.

QR3 did 2 go arounds at LHR, and diverted to MAN.... Landing at around the same time EK17 landed at FRA.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Despite rumours to the contrary, Manchester is also in Europe.


I'm still laughing

Thx

Almost as good as Mr. T's. "Kansas" tweet
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 13:58
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BA 196 from Huston went Frankfurt too after two unsuccessful attempts at LHR. A friend of mine said 98% of the time he was the most overpaid person in the world, 2% of the time he was the most underpaid person in the world - I guess itís a two percent day!
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FR4459 has been trying endlessly to get into EMA and still cant land. Trying LPL now.
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Old 9th Feb 2020, 14:30
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Can't blame him . probably will have to pay for the fuel!
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... and also per Flightradar24.com, BA2749 GVA-LGW held for a couple of tries at Gatwick, then skedaddled back to France. Landed 20 mins ago squawking 7700 at Lyon LYS with a reception committee of three "Security Dept" ground vehicles who shepherded it to the apron but then soon sped back to their shed. As G-KING says, it's a day when the pay might hardly seem enough!
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Originally Posted by student88 View Post
Ladies and gents, this isn't news.

If you think you can come up with a better diversion option why don't you fly the plane yourself?
Exactly....too many armchair commentators
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