A380 retired
Yeap they have Trent's
Also the first off the production line were a fair. It heavier than the latest - the newer ones EK have at 575t burn a bit less according to a friend there.
Also the first off the production line were a fair. It heavier than the latest - the newer ones EK have at 575t burn a bit less according to a friend there.
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Wasn't it Willy Walsh who was commenting that he would be interested in used A380s as new ones were too expensive? Apparently they do work really well on slot restricted airports.
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10 years old, 40,000 odd hours so far. The consider these are the problems anyone faces:
Existing structural and mechanical damage, Interior refit, updating the IFE and Avionics plus many life'd items due before 12 years is up, e.g a ship set of landing gears.
Add that lot up and added to the cost of buying it in the first place, I doubt if you will have a viable aircraft going forward.
And that's all before factoring in the increasing price of oil !!
Even breaking it maybe not cost effective.
Existing structural and mechanical damage, Interior refit, updating the IFE and Avionics plus many life'd items due before 12 years is up, e.g a ship set of landing gears.
Add that lot up and added to the cost of buying it in the first place, I doubt if you will have a viable aircraft going forward.
And that's all before factoring in the increasing price of oil !!
Even breaking it maybe not cost effective.
10 years old, 40,000 odd hours so far. The consider these are the problems anyone faces:
Existing structural and mechanical damage, Interior refit, updating the IFE and Avionics plus many life'd items due before 12 years is up, e.g a ship set of landing gears.
Add that lot up and added to the cost of buying it in the first place, I doubt if you will have a viable aircraft going forward.
And that's all before factoring in the increasing price of oil !!
Even breaking it maybe not cost effective.
Existing structural and mechanical damage, Interior refit, updating the IFE and Avionics plus many life'd items due before 12 years is up, e.g a ship set of landing gears.
Add that lot up and added to the cost of buying it in the first place, I doubt if you will have a viable aircraft going forward.
And that's all before factoring in the increasing price of oil !!
Even breaking it maybe not cost effective.
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Just to be clear are you talking about problems relevant to this specific airframe or making a general point?
I'd second tdracer's comment about long haul airframe longevity.
10 years old, 40,000 odd hours so far. The consider these are the problems anyone faces:
I'd second tdracer's comment about long haul airframe longevity.
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It seems a shame to see such an amazing aircraft retire. Surely it could be converted into a freighter? Just think how much more cargo she could take compared to a MD11 / 747. Perhaps even a military version? How many more troops she could accomodate compared to an A330 or 767.
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It seems a shame to see such an amazing aircraft retire. Surely it could be converted into a freighter? Just think how much more cargo she could take compared to a MD11 / 747. Perhaps even a military version? How many more troops she could accomodate compared to an A330 or 767.
Truly a white elephant..
It seems a shame to see such an amazing aircraft retire. Surely it could be converted into a freighter? Just think how much more cargo she could take compared to a MD11 / 747. Perhaps even a military version? How many more troops she could accomodate compared to an A330 or 767.
It simply does not pencil out well as a purely cargo aircraft, plus getting cargo on/off the upper deck would be a problem without a huge investment in GSE.
The one way it might work would be as a combi style aircraft - cargo on the main deck and SLF up stairs. Problem is, after a few cargo-fire related crashes the regulations for a combi have become so restrictive I doubt we'll ever see a new combi-style aircraft certified.