Air Atlanta Beware!!!!
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From: England
Cathar,
No they weren't grounded. As I recall they were just banned from operating in UK airspace for a while til they sorted their act out. Something to do with maint paperwork I believe.
Happy to be corrected by someone who knows better!
RdR
No they weren't grounded. As I recall they were just banned from operating in UK airspace for a while til they sorted their act out. Something to do with maint paperwork I believe.
Happy to be corrected by someone who knows better!
RdR
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From: EurAfrica
Seriph
Why 4 years? Because I had to find another job before leaving...? Uh duh! Because when you work for a cr@ppy outfit, you still try and make it work...? Because I'm not a bleedin' job-hopper...? Because I've got a family to feed...? Want a few more?
As for:
I think you'll find I merely commented on his inaccurate quote!
Furthermore: I've not seen one person here dispute their manipulation of the JAR-FCL to suit themselves. Any of you flying at AAI; each time you go to work, ask your colleagues what licences they hold. Even better, take a look!
As for:
Give the guy a break Rusty
Furthermore: I've not seen one person here dispute their manipulation of the JAR-FCL to suit themselves. Any of you flying at AAI; each time you go to work, ask your colleagues what licences they hold. Even better, take a look!
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From: Brisbane, Australia
Seems like you have the same basic interests as most other folk, family, stability, income, maybe we have a lot more in common than you think!
My last airline collapsed overnight, with no warning at all, due to a military coupe whilst I was on layover, so don't you tell me about job searching and trying to maintain a stable lifestyle!!!
Pull you head in and mind your own damn business - nothing you have said is of any significance, or has any substance other than your say-so!
I have been spending the past many months trying to move on, I'm not blind, as you suggest, but you may have noticed, there is not much about!
Do you think I like to be based in places like Algeria, Lagos, Casablanca, Jeddah, so pull your head in unless you have something constructive to offer.
Cheers.
My last airline collapsed overnight, with no warning at all, due to a military coupe whilst I was on layover, so don't you tell me about job searching and trying to maintain a stable lifestyle!!!
Pull you head in and mind your own damn business - nothing you have said is of any significance, or has any substance other than your say-so!
I have been spending the past many months trying to move on, I'm not blind, as you suggest, but you may have noticed, there is not much about!
Do you think I like to be based in places like Algeria, Lagos, Casablanca, Jeddah, so pull your head in unless you have something constructive to offer.
Cheers.
Joined: Mar 2000
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From: Arizona USA
Hmm, seems Flight Detent is NOT a happy camper.
I personally know of two previous crew members that had to go to Iceland (on their own dime) to collect their end of contract pay, never mind the fact that it was always late during the contract.
I personally know of two previous crew members that had to go to Iceland (on their own dime) to collect their end of contract pay, never mind the fact that it was always late during the contract.
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From: Gold Coast
Stop distorting the facts, 411A.
I've seen much the same thing, but the dispute is with the contracting companies - I've never ever seen AAI not pay anyone nor be late with payment.
The contracting companies are a rather different story though!
If AAI were like that, then it's ancient history.
Knowing your huge bias against AAI, I suspect that the people you mention were Icelandic and were going home anyway, but you just forgot to mention that ...
You can come up with some good posts, yet you have to post trash like that ... ????
I've seen much the same thing, but the dispute is with the contracting companies - I've never ever seen AAI not pay anyone nor be late with payment.
The contracting companies are a rather different story though!
If AAI were like that, then it's ancient history.
Knowing your huge bias against AAI, I suspect that the people you mention were Icelandic and were going home anyway, but you just forgot to mention that ...
You can come up with some good posts, yet you have to post trash like that ... ????
Joined: Sep 2001
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From: Blighty
May I just add, from a different and unbiased point of view, that Air Atlanta is one of the worst operaters I have seen in over 20 years in the business.
The different point of view I mention is their maintenance. For example, did you know that they are now operating their 747s (for Virgin) out of Manchester with their engineers working 16 days on 16 off 12 hour shifts!
I do not work for them, never have but when one hears(knows) these things it does make one think!!!
Did someone mention fatigue????
The different point of view I mention is their maintenance. For example, did you know that they are now operating their 747s (for Virgin) out of Manchester with their engineers working 16 days on 16 off 12 hour shifts!
I do not work for them, never have but when one hears(knows) these things it does make one think!!!
Did someone mention fatigue????
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From: Gold Coast
Fair 'nuff, 411A. That may well have been the case when you were there, but in recent times Direct has been involved in a few problems that really shouldn't be necessary.
I know of a couple of aircrew that haven't been paid by them, yet AAI have certainly paid Direct.
Can't comment on ACE, but I haven't heard of any problems of late from them.
I'll agree that they could do with a bigger engeering workforce though, and the ground chaps do put in some very long hours indeed.
Part of that problem is the very nature of AAI's work, ie, contractural. It's very difficult to keep a constant number of staff, so they have to often rapidly expand & contract numbers, so pretty much everyone can and is faced with an uncertain period of work & leisure. Makes it hard for a lot of people to hang around, and understandably so.
It suits me as I'm not attached and have no real committments, but of course many other people require more stable employment.
I know of a couple of aircrew that haven't been paid by them, yet AAI have certainly paid Direct.
Can't comment on ACE, but I haven't heard of any problems of late from them.
I'll agree that they could do with a bigger engeering workforce though, and the ground chaps do put in some very long hours indeed.
Part of that problem is the very nature of AAI's work, ie, contractural. It's very difficult to keep a constant number of staff, so they have to often rapidly expand & contract numbers, so pretty much everyone can and is faced with an uncertain period of work & leisure. Makes it hard for a lot of people to hang around, and understandably so.
It suits me as I'm not attached and have no real committments, but of course many other people require more stable employment.
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From: Sydney Australia
Saddest Aviator,Before you complain about something, you should experience it yourself first! I aggree with Flight Detent who said it all right. I had spent four years in AAI and only finished when some idiot crashed into the World Towers.
Before AAI I had only 2 jobs in 40 years, both lasting 20 years each. I joined AAI because I wasn't ready to stop flying. I found AAI to be a great company who doesn't fly outside the internationally required regulations. If your friend was fired, he was fired for good reason and not for what he said to you.
You should investigate claims before you castigate an airline that does a great job in the market it operates.
Benny7601
