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That's no way to treat a lady - the Boeing 787 Display at Farnborough

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Old 18th Jul 2014, 09:03
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I thought hat people with an interest in aviation had long since got used to big airliners doing seemingly alarming things from the AB340-600 and A380 displays in recent years, good to see Boeing showing off their capabilities too.

Mind you for non aviation literate it can be alarming viz a new to the FNB area Kiwi out jogging not far away in Hawley while I was walking my dog thought he was watching incipient crash as a 380 with a seemingly disasterous bank angle and flying very low appeared and disappeared behind the trees.

He had only just relocated and had never heard of the show but he knew that as he put it 'Jumbo jets just don't do that.
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Old 21st Jul 2014, 03:45
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Sure this was practiced in the sim and was carefully worked out. But one cannot help but think of the Czar 52 and C17 incident. In the C17 incident he had got away with it a few times, but wind conditions can play a part? Rolling with spoiler is also basically stalling the wing, it needs a moment to recover on rollout, that poor C17 did it's best, despite the spoilers almost continuosly extending and retracting as it was brutalised around the routine, untill she finally said, stuff this for a lark. I haven't flown anything that heavy, (25 years military, now civil) I'm sure with min fuel and the kind of power from those engines it will handle like a fighter. Birdstrike with resultant engine thrust loss at those speeds/flight attitudes? Is it worth it? Maybe is, to put one over on Airbus. I admit as a passenger I've always felt better (rightly/wrongly) flying with Mr Boeing who has pilots at the controls with the computers looking over their shoulder, compared to the competition, who have the computer at the controls with the pilot anxiously looking over it's shoulder.
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Old 23rd Jul 2014, 14:21
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I would be surprised if you can loop any a/c with a high/T tail....
Pucara, C-114 Tutor, F-104, F-101, Javelin, gliders as mentioned, etc, etc beg to differ.

If you are strictly talking about large airliners or trash haulers with a t-tail you may be more accurate. Being cleared/certified for loops/aerobatics is different than being capable. Shoot the CH-53 was looped.
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