Waddington cheap skates got their comeuppance!!
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Waddington cheap skates got their comeuppance!!
This bunch of free loaders got more than they bargained for.
Typhoon fighter jet flies so low at air display it forces onlookers to duck and run for cover | Mail Online
Typhoon fighter jet flies so low at air display it forces onlookers to duck and run for cover | Mail Online
The Turkish F16 provided an equally low approach yesterday to keep the cheapos happy......
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNoupI...ature=youtu.be
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WGNoupI...ature=youtu.be
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Waddington cheap skates got their comeuppance!!
Would have been in trouble had an truck been passing at the time
Don't think so! Red lights come on to stop traffic at least 3 minutes before anything lands.
Signs either side of runway on A15 warning why.
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Waddington cheap skates got their comeuppance!!
Would have been in trouble had an truck been passing at the time
Don't think so! Red lights come on to stop traffic at least 3 minutes before anything lands.
Signs either side of runway on A15 warning why.
Not all are cheapskates.
N707ZS and Simplythebeast
I really must put the record straight.
At Waddington, especialy for the Friday arrivals, which is when your making your observations about.
A very large majority of persons outside of the airfield are there HAVING PAID to go into the Park and View area.
Then as photographers, they, like myself, look for the best situation regarding the direction of light for best results.
So having PAID to park , everyone then walks back along the fence line until south of the runway awaiting the "arrivals".
When the light swings around , about mid-afternoon everyone gravitates back to the north of the runway, eventually ending up in the park and view
for any late afternoon arivals. HAVING PAID TO BE THERE.
So please do some research before you tar genuine PAYING photographers with the slur that they are "cheapskates" and free loaders, THEY ARE NOT!!!!!!. I am certainly not either, for 40+years of semi pro. aviation photography I have always paid my way.
Rant over.
OPF
I really must put the record straight.
At Waddington, especialy for the Friday arrivals, which is when your making your observations about.
A very large majority of persons outside of the airfield are there HAVING PAID to go into the Park and View area.
Then as photographers, they, like myself, look for the best situation regarding the direction of light for best results.
So having PAID to park , everyone then walks back along the fence line until south of the runway awaiting the "arrivals".
When the light swings around , about mid-afternoon everyone gravitates back to the north of the runway, eventually ending up in the park and view
for any late afternoon arivals. HAVING PAID TO BE THERE.
So please do some research before you tar genuine PAYING photographers with the slur that they are "cheapskates" and free loaders, THEY ARE NOT!!!!!!. I am certainly not either, for 40+years of semi pro. aviation photography I have always paid my way.
Rant over.
OPF
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Old Photo Fanatic. The video of the Turkish display is from Saturday 5th July, so an airshow day, not an arrivals day. The people in the undershoot are not in the park and view area, they are in an area that is signposted as an unsafe area for pedestrians when aircraft are landing, hence the traffic lights to stop traffic. Your argument has no credence, these people are putting themselves in danger and the ones with ladders up against the fence line on the centreline,even more.
The people in the video from yesterday are freeloaders and I am surprised that the airshow authorities continued to allow landings whilst they were there!
The people in the video from yesterday are freeloaders and I am surprised that the airshow authorities continued to allow landings whilst they were there!
ranger 703
In the name of fairness, I have to agree with you about the "Goofers" who place themselves within the "Safety" zone under the lights.
I should have differentiated between the two groups, but still maintain that serious photographers ,are not cheapskates, and act responsibly away from the middle section of the approach/lights. Again I make the point they will have paid to park in the designated Park and View area.
Hope this brings a little balance to the thread.
OPF
I should have differentiated between the two groups, but still maintain that serious photographers ,are not cheapskates, and act responsibly away from the middle section of the approach/lights. Again I make the point they will have paid to park in the designated Park and View area.
Hope this brings a little balance to the thread.
OPF
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I'm always reminded of that tragic incident where a C-130 with it's rear door open, did a very low pass of a vehicle with a squaddie on top…..The F16 in the video was close to clipping heads with it's wheels and whilst exhilarating for the people underneath a metre or two less and it would've been a pretty sizeable loss of life.
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The F16 in the video was close to clipping heads with it's wheels and whilst exhilarating for the people underneath a metre or two less and it would've been a pretty sizeable loss of life.
We all take risks in everyday life and, consciously or unconsciously, we weigh up the possible consequences against the probability that they will actually happen.
Personally I'd say that counting on a NATO fast jet pilot's ability to land without hitting the boundary fence was a pretty safe bet ...
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Personally I'd say that counting on a NATO fast jet pilot's ability to land without hitting the boundary fence was a pretty safe bet ...
I fly from somewhere that is probably very close to Waddington and am continually amazed by the spectators who stand underneath the approach waiting for their Darwin award. There have been instances of jets flying through the boundary hedge. Of course when the first of those spectators are killed as will inevitably happen there will be uproar; which will be akin to complaining that you were hit by a car while standing in the fast lane of the M1 taking photographs. There is no fathoming some people. If you are willing to take that risk then fair enough, but why not spare a thought for the poor sod that knocks your head off and has to live the rest of his life with that.
I will say it only once, anyone standing under the approach is risking their life; it is not a game, none of the pilots can see you (nor are they looking for you), all they are concentrating on is the most critical phase of any flight, the landing; and sometimes even the best pilots get it a bit pearshaped. That's the reason why you are not supposed to be there, it's for your safety.
Don't think so! Red lights come on to stop traffic at least 3 minutes before anything lands.
Edit: Always glad to see people like OPF in the viewing areas. Plenty of people there up till early afternoon today.
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Interesting comments thing.
"I fly from somewhere that is probably very close to Waddington" Hmm, you fly and you don't know the exact location of your home airfield?
"Standing in the fast lane of the M1" There is no such thing as a 'fast lane' on a U.K. motorway.
May I suggest you climb back inside your big yellow teapot and spend a few days studying aeronautical charts of the Lincolnshire area and a thorough re-read of the Highway Code, with special emphasis on the section entitled 'Motorways'.
When these objectives have been achieved, your next task is to contact the operators of the aerodrome known as EGCC. In the undershoot of their runway 23R not only is there an electrified railway line, there will soon be the A555 South Manchester Relief Road dual-carriageway, and brand-spanking new 'Metrolink' tram line. And if that isn't enough, the open fields in front of these obstacles are being tarmac-ed over for a 5000 space car park, which will probably contain about 250,000 litres of mixed petrol/diesel.
Safe flying/driving….Keep a sharp-lookout.
"I fly from somewhere that is probably very close to Waddington" Hmm, you fly and you don't know the exact location of your home airfield?
"Standing in the fast lane of the M1" There is no such thing as a 'fast lane' on a U.K. motorway.
May I suggest you climb back inside your big yellow teapot and spend a few days studying aeronautical charts of the Lincolnshire area and a thorough re-read of the Highway Code, with special emphasis on the section entitled 'Motorways'.
When these objectives have been achieved, your next task is to contact the operators of the aerodrome known as EGCC. In the undershoot of their runway 23R not only is there an electrified railway line, there will soon be the A555 South Manchester Relief Road dual-carriageway, and brand-spanking new 'Metrolink' tram line. And if that isn't enough, the open fields in front of these obstacles are being tarmac-ed over for a 5000 space car park, which will probably contain about 250,000 litres of mixed petrol/diesel.
Safe flying/driving….Keep a sharp-lookout.
I wouldn't take up gambling then if I were you...
Roughly how many fast jet sorties are there, say in a year, across all the NATO nations?
And how many instances of boundary fences/hedges being demolished, or landing in the undershoot, are there in a typical year?
Feel free to use scientific notation in calculating the resulting probablility of this happening for a given landing, to save you having to type all those zeroes after the decimal point.
Then, next time you are landing at your field that's "probably" (that word, again) close to Waddington, nip up the road and explain to the spectators there how one of them is "inevitably" going to get killed.
Let us know how you get on.
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As I said, I have been enlightened as to the crassness of my post, feel free to continue viewing as you see fit, not that I ever had a say in it anyway of course. I can only apologise for any offence I may have caused.
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Musket90,
Well observed. That threshold has been displaced since the late 1970s, due, (as far as I'm aware), to the proximity of the houses on Ringway Road. I remember a large headline on the front page of the Manchester Evening News many years ago which had a photograph of displaced/missing roof tiles and an overflying jet. Above the picture were the words "AIR VORTEX TERROR".
On 05L, the similarly long-standing threshold displacement was introduced to move the touchdown point away from the roof of the Altrincham-Wilmsow road tunnel.
Well observed. That threshold has been displaced since the late 1970s, due, (as far as I'm aware), to the proximity of the houses on Ringway Road. I remember a large headline on the front page of the Manchester Evening News many years ago which had a photograph of displaced/missing roof tiles and an overflying jet. Above the picture were the words "AIR VORTEX TERROR".
On 05L, the similarly long-standing threshold displacement was introduced to move the touchdown point away from the roof of the Altrincham-Wilmsow road tunnel.
"I fly from somewhere that is probably very close to Waddington" Hmm, you fly and you don't know the exact location of your home airfield?
"Standing in the fast lane of the M1" There is no such thing as a 'fast lane' on a U.K. motorway.
"Standing in the fast lane of the M1" There is no such thing as a 'fast lane' on a U.K. motorway.
If you are willing to take that risk then fair enough, but why not spare a thought for the poor sod that knocks your head off and has to live the rest of his life with that.
I will say it only once, anyone standing under the approach is risking their life; it is not a game, none of the pilots can see you (nor are they looking for you), all they are concentrating on is the most critical phase of any flight, the landing; and sometimes even the best pilots get it a bit pearshaped. That's the reason why you are not supposed to be there, it's for your safety.
I will say it only once, anyone standing under the approach is risking their life; it is not a game, none of the pilots can see you (nor are they looking for you), all they are concentrating on is the most critical phase of any flight, the landing; and sometimes even the best pilots get it a bit pearshaped. That's the reason why you are not supposed to be there, it's for your safety.
MJ