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Old 9th Feb 2014, 12:41
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Slight thread creep but I watched an episode of UK Borders on Sky yesterday. They had picked up a Nigerian man with a forged passport and were interviewing him.

He claimed to be 15 years old bit was obviously 30-35 years old. He had a list of questions and answers written down which he said was given to him in Lagos by "Mr London" these, of course were lies to enable him entry to UK.

He said he was a student but gave a totally wrong year for when his study started and could not name his college.

When they said he would be refused entry he suddenly started wailing and saying he could not go back to Nigeria as his parents had been murdered by burglars and he would be killed.

The half wit Border agent suggested Asylum and then confirmed this with her superior they said , as he was 15, he would be handed over to Social Services.

The voice over then said he had been housed in Croydon while he was being checked out but had absconded and his whereabouts are unknown!

I just cannot believe this goes on surely false passport, Nigerian man pretending to be a child straight back same day end of!
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Old 9th Feb 2014, 13:04
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Maybe just employed as a cleaner by a government minister?
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Old 9th Feb 2014, 14:40
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Greetings Cymmon,

I have seen the video you are talking about on Youtube, and many more.

Are we stepping off topic now? I don't think so. I think that we are talking about why the big flying bus drivers in the air should fly any deportee back to where they came from..

About 5 years ago when I flew to England (Terminal 1, Heathrow), I sat waiting for the line at the immigration counter to get shorter before I checked in. Behind me I heard an argument. I turned around to see a man with numerous women with him (I assume he was married to them all). The immigration officer had just come out with some paper work that was required for them to enter England.

The man then started complaining to the immigration officer how bad their service was and how slow they were and so on. The immigration officer promptly tore up all their paper work. He said, “I have worked though my tea time to get you in, and this is the gratitude I get?”. Him and his anchorage were no doubt marched off to some place in the airport where they would wait for a plane back to wherever they came from.

We are not idiots. We can see that the man in this video is lying through his teeth about everything including his age, and he had a false passport. He subsequently disappeared after they gave him a place to stay while they investigate his case. What havoc and crime is he committing in England now? We will never know.

IMHO, they should have sent him right back to Nigeria.
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Old 9th Feb 2014, 14:48
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Hi,
It actually wasn't me that mentioned the video, but I have seen it before.

I agree, it should be straight back to whence you came, but unfortunately due to the British sticking to the letter of the law (unlike other Europeans) we will continue to accept these people.

On an offside, my Philippino girlfriend was allowed a 6 month visa to stay in the UK. I applied to the Spanish so she could visit Lanzarote with me. Bearing in mind she had entry and exit limits on her Uk visa, the Spanish made us book flights to and from Lanzarote and prove that we had money to cover the cost and also accommodation. All done, easy!!!
No, they refused her access!!! She came to the Uk, I lost my money for the visit to Spain, but she left the Uk well within the time on her visa.

Again,is England too easy on people?
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Old 9th Feb 2014, 15:10
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I humbly appologise, Cymmon. I meant to reference vctenderness.
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Old 9th Feb 2014, 16:57
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Some years ago, a few years before the Schengen agreement came in, while living and working in Germany, I had a project running in Lisbon. Frequently, I would drive down there. One day, thought I would take my wife and son as I was going to be there for 5 to 6 weeks. The wife being Filipina, needed visas so first I obtained the Portuguese one for her and she then applied for the Spanish visa. It was only a day or so before setting off that I noticed her Spanish visa was for a single entry only. This was not going to work as, in order to drive anywhere from Portugal, you need to enter Spain from France on the way out and re-enter Spain on the way back. So, we drove there with no problem. Didn't bother with the Portuguese border officials crossing from Spain into Portugal; I just gave them a cheery wave. When it was time to return, I chose to leave Portugal via a very quiet border post I had sussed out. We stopped in a cafe about 100 yards from the border post and had a nice lunch while sitting on the cafe terrace. As expected, at lunch time all the Spanish officials disappeared inside their post for lunch. We all jumped in the car and went "wheee" right through a virtually abandoned border! The Spanish consulate in Frankfurt knew we were driving as that was stated on the visa application but were not smart enough to figure out how one could do the round trip with only a single entry!
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Old 14th Feb 2014, 07:40
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The Spanish consulate in Frankfurt knew we were driving as that was stated on the visa application but were not smart enough to figure out how one could do the round trip with only a single entry!
Err... did you check Multiple entry on the application form and pay the fee?

UK should start the Border control Checks at the home country like the USA. Helps airborne illegals from entering at home base. Once on UK soil unfortunately all sorts of EU rules and regulations start applying. Probably the reason why the aussies intercept and hold them outside their territory
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