Dozens of Newish CRJ-200 in Storage, What a Waste! Idea's?
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Dozens of Newish CRJ-200 in Storage, What a Waste! Idea's?
Amazing how many of the modern smaller CRJs are in storage.
Canadair CRJ-200 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation
None of them even close to their maximum hours/cycles. What will happen to them?
Some of them can apparently be converted into real nice Business Aircraft:
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...rcraft%20Cabin
.. but what about the rest, Africa? Reno Air Racing? Scrapping ?! Now that would be a waste of modern good machinery & destruction of capital
Canadair CRJ-200 Production List - Planespotters.net Just Aviation
None of them even close to their maximum hours/cycles. What will happen to them?
Some of them can apparently be converted into real nice Business Aircraft:
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...rcraft%20Cabin
.. but what about the rest, Africa? Reno Air Racing? Scrapping ?! Now that would be a waste of modern good machinery & destruction of capital
Hardly money making machines for this day and age. They saw carriers like Duo and Maersk off and probably a few others. Whether anyone would want the expense of turning them into business/corporate jets who knows? personally I don't see a future for them.
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You'll have to pull EGPWS.. crossed my mind seeing the dessert..
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wp...RJ200large.jpg
GULFSTREAMAVIATOR, linked that in the opening post. I Found a cargo convrsion too. High performance, expensive cargo I assume..
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...0__70__70__70_
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/wp...RJ200large.jpg
GULFSTREAMAVIATOR, linked that in the opening post. I Found a cargo convrsion too. High performance, expensive cargo I assume..
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...0__70__70__70_
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keesje, sorry missed the link
The conversion is actually very profitable, and provides a good corporate platform.
My system is so slow, I gave up waiting to see the picture, and thus skipped the reference below.
In the cargo version, is there a cargo door, or just a modified interior.???
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My system is so slow, I gave up waiting to see the picture, and thus skipped the reference below.
In the cargo version, is there a cargo door, or just a modified interior.???
Humble regrets at my total incompetence.
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Ater becoming Modstore visitor member you can see Cascade owns the current freighter STC and did CRJ cargo modifications. Its a simple one using existing doors.
http://www.cascadeaerospace.com/imag...DEC_9_2013.pdf
Miami-based Aeronautical Engineers Inc is working on a cargo door that will become available in 2015..
Aging CRJs To Get P2F Conversions | Aviation International News
Wonder if it will become an freighter.
http://www.cascadeaerospace.com/imag...DEC_9_2013.pdf
Miami-based Aeronautical Engineers Inc is working on a cargo door that will become available in 2015..
Aging CRJs To Get P2F Conversions | Aviation International News
Wonder if it will become an freighter.
Amazing how many of the modern smaller CRJs are in storage.
These are from the former Mesa fleet....
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If these really are low time low cycle aircraft they'll find another home.
The CASM of the fifty seat CRJ may not make sense as an airplane operating routes, but it can make sense as an airplane feeding traffic.
From our home airport, its ususally one of these or an ERJ as our first flight flying to a one stop connection to most of the world.
There are still plenty of these aircraft flying, some of which are pretty tired.
If these are fairly young aircraft, someone will snap them up.
The CASM of the fifty seat CRJ may not make sense as an airplane operating routes, but it can make sense as an airplane feeding traffic.
From our home airport, its ususally one of these or an ERJ as our first flight flying to a one stop connection to most of the world.
There are still plenty of these aircraft flying, some of which are pretty tired.
If these are fairly young aircraft, someone will snap them up.
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What would be the initial cost of all of those in the original photo?
None of these is from before 1997 (~737NG) according to the link on top.
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Taking a quick look at the satellite photo there are 43 ERJ's (145?) too on that airfield.. http://goo.gl/maps/60pkm
Apparently the same story as the CRJ. They are narrower but still a usefull business jet alternative? Not that many options it seems.
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...ft_70__70__70_
RJs changed the business 1993 -2008 and now evaporate?
Apparently the same story as the CRJ. They are narrower but still a usefull business jet alternative? Not that many options it seems.
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...ft_70__70__70_
RJs changed the business 1993 -2008 and now evaporate?
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Around 2005 they costed above $25 million. I found them on satelite ( http://goo.gl/maps/V5606 ) it seems there are 37, close to a billion dollars,
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I question the feasibility of using the aircraft for corporate purposes, does it hold enough fuel to be competitive?
https://www.modstore.aero/modificati...200?query=fuel
Of the aircraft on the Photo's many have been build after 2003 and are in storage for some time. Young.
RUAG / 328 Design also gained an STC for the conversions. Project Phoenix did it before, as did Fokker Services according to ModStore.
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Its a big fuselage, its cheap even after VIP configuration and there are several STC's for extra fuel tanks giving it transcon / 30000NM range.
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Market for Auxiliary Fuel Systems
Pats is also seeing a resurgence in interest for CRJ auxiliary fuel systems, particularly as the hull values of -100 and -200 models drop concurrent with the need for major engine overhauls. Meanwhile, used market interest in the aircraft has accelerated, particularly in China, Russia and Eastern Europe. A Pats auxiliary fuel system can extend the range of those aircraft to 3,000 nm. “When you add the cost of acquiring the aircraft, the fuel system, a new interior and new paint, you are looking at eight to nine million dollars all up,” said John Eichten, Pats senior vice president of sales and marketing. “It’s a nice, nice airplane.” Pats has done three CRJ recompletions to date.“You can get a [CRJ] hull for two to three million dollars now,” said Hill.
Eichten said that PATS may look at CRJ-700s and -900s for recompletion as those aircraft become available.
Pats is also seeing a resurgence in interest for CRJ auxiliary fuel systems, particularly as the hull values of -100 and -200 models drop concurrent with the need for major engine overhauls. Meanwhile, used market interest in the aircraft has accelerated, particularly in China, Russia and Eastern Europe. A Pats auxiliary fuel system can extend the range of those aircraft to 3,000 nm. “When you add the cost of acquiring the aircraft, the fuel system, a new interior and new paint, you are looking at eight to nine million dollars all up,” said John Eichten, Pats senior vice president of sales and marketing. “It’s a nice, nice airplane.” Pats has done three CRJ recompletions to date.“You can get a [CRJ] hull for two to three million dollars now,” said Hill.
Eichten said that PATS may look at CRJ-700s and -900s for recompletion as those aircraft become available.