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Old 23rd Oct 2012, 13:09
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Contaminated runway ops, Russian style

You have to check out this amazing video of an Antonov taking off on a mud covered runway somewhere in Russia.

I so want to have a read of their Part-A ops manual...
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Old 23rd Oct 2012, 13:21
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That will be another fine example of why UTAIR has such a high safety reputation within EASA then!!
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Balls of steel, them Russians...
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A lot of Russian a/c were designed to operate in third world style airfields, this is a good example of this.
I agree, balls of steel, especially when you are as heavy as this one appears to be.
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Old 23rd Oct 2012, 16:20
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The expression on my face throughout that video:
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Cool

Americans do it too


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Old 24th Oct 2012, 20:53
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...and it doesn't have to be a contaminated surface to make take off a little sporting;


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Old 27th Oct 2012, 08:54
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Have you seen this ...?

For you, dear CRM educated, regulated, governed, double checked, recurrent trained computer pilots?

(first is outside, second is passenger view)

http://www.origo.hu/utazas/20121026-videofelvetel-egy-orosz-gep-veszelyes-felszallasarol.html

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Yes, thank you.
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Old 27th Oct 2012, 09:15
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Hope they had properly calculated that TORR or am I being naive.

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Old 27th Oct 2012, 09:58
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Contaminated, or Wet performance figures?
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Old 27th Oct 2012, 10:01
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Who is the one to open the fourth thread with this?
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Old 27th Oct 2012, 10:09
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The fourth? Oh.... It's me...
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same here
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Puts me in mind of a Beverly
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It's sad to watch the decline of this website. It wasn't that many months ago, still, that it was relatively active. Now we're down to the occasional new thread, most of which are re-posts of things that went viral a week ago or passengers posting videos of "hard landings" and other non-events.

The other forum I visit is History & Nostalgia, which has become nothing but a couple of endless "Wot Cockpit?" and "Name This Silhouette" games.

Like the Kee Bird, PPRuNe is making endless diminishing-radius 360s and even as we watch is about to fly up its own rectum and disappear.

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Old 27th Oct 2012, 16:36
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Yes, we all have seen...Already discussed here for days:

http://www.pprune.org/spectators-bal...ian-style.html

and here:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...y-can-fly.html

and here:
http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4988...-take-off.html

See...Search Feature is your friend

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Old 27th Oct 2012, 16:36
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The most common naivete of internet tyros is the copy/paste/forwarding of undated material, or material referring only to "yesterday" or "last week" (in other words, no specific date).

Learn to do just a bit of factchecking (date checking too), and learn to use a website's search feature to see when you are duplicating someone else's post.

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Old 27th Oct 2012, 16:46
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Like the Kee Bird, PPRuNe is making endless diminishing-radius 360s
How negative. Instead of making such comments, perhaps you could suggest how the forum might be improved . . .
and even as we watch is about to fly up its own rectum and disappear.
or alternatively, follow your own example.
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Old 27th Oct 2012, 17:36
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perhaps you could suggest how the forum might be improved . . .
Be delighted to. Simply read the name of the site: Professional Pilots Rumor Network. Something needs to be done to rid it of the comments of amateurs, wannabes, gamers, children and--perhaps worst of all--know-it-all SLFs. (When the passenger in the seat next to me invariably criticizes a PF for planting an airplane in a crosswind, say, I find that it quickly quiets them if I ask them when -they- last landed a 727/37/47/Bus/Piper...)

One way to do this would be to require that aviation-experience profiles be filled out. Obviously users could lie, but I would hope that being found out as a FlightSim player when one claims to be an ATP with multiple type ratings would at least keep out all but the most brazen of pretenders.

This used to be a site visited by users interested in learning from, and discussing matters with and among, professionals. Certainly there's no reason why nonpilots shouldn't lurk and learn, but instead the site has become a babble of amateurism. It has become no better than reading the comments on a YouTube video of an aviation event.

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