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AerLingus (REgional) Pilot arrested in Bristol.

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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 17:49
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1) If there was no evidence of him consuming alcohol then why was he breathalaysed in the first place?

2) He may have passed the second test, but he FAILED the first test. Also we dont know the time from the first test to the second test. Bearing in mind that the body disposes of alcohol at the rate of 1 unit per hour, he could still have had a reading of .08 at the time of the second test. The second test is not more stringent than the first, the levels are the same.

Also the company have requested the cctv recordings of the day in question so that should shed more light.

3)If you dont like what I have to say, then jog on old boy, and leave the debate to people with an IQ of 70+.

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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 18:35
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I know nothing of this case, don't really care either but Towelnose is showing some dodgy logic so here goes..

1) If there was no evidence of him consuming alcohol then why was he breathalaysed in the first place?
Plenty of pilots have been breathalyser tested, often it is because they publicly object to security "feeling their junk" as the phrase goes and security return the favour... On one occasion (manchester) a passenger thought the approach (in bad weather) was rough so called the police during the taxi in... being breathalyser tested is not evidence of any crime.

2) He may have passed the second test, but he FAILED the first test. Also we dont know the time from the first test to the second test.
The equipment used for the first test is subject to many errors, accuracy issues and can be affected by external electro magnetic interference, it is also subject to errors caused by naturally occurring body processes which, given the very low level of permitted alcohol, become significant for aircrew. Oddly in this case was the second breath test. Due to the low levels involved most forces (and I thought BALPA had an agreement with ACPO) use a blood test as the evidential test. The result of which take a couple of weeks to know. If I cared I'd wonder why that wasn't done here.

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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 18:58
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Aah, the intelligent IQ put down. I'll leave it to my fellow PPRuNers to judge that one for themselves
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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 21:55
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In the words of D Rumsfeld: "There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."
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Old 22nd Jan 2012, 23:30
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Towelnose,

In answer to your first question. I have been breathalysed three times during my flying career. Two were randoms. One was when a cleaner, possibly grumpy with the airline for various reasons, reported, to the police, a smell of alcohol on the flight deck. If you're interested she was, in fact, correct.

Bearing in mind that the body disposes of alcohol at the rate of 1 unit per hour
Whose body?
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 17:02
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No smoke without fire people. Seems the company have taken action......
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Old 24th Jan 2012, 17:40
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Of course the company has taken action, However im sorry to tell you that does not mean he is guilty, It means that they have to investigate the allegation as they would with anyone.
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Both "Launched"!
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Ok, from the story:

Worried airport staff called police when the pilot went through a passenger security gate rather than a crew entrance and was dressed in civilian clothing.
What do the regs say about that? Would you not need a boarding pass for that?

One source claimed he had earlier gone to a hotel with a member of the cabin crew.
So there's a 4 hour layover for some reason, and they pop into the Airport Tavern for a quickie. Probably not permitted either, but would you really order a bottle of champers aswell?

Doesn't quite add up, but we are all relying on a lot oh hearsay.
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