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Old 19th Mar 2011, 23:59
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O ye of little faith.

Maiden flight of the B747-8I scheduled for tomorrow Sunday 20th March at 16.45GMT.
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 01:30
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747-8F has been flying since last summer so the -8I shouldn't be a big deal.
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I managed to escape Japan and Im in the UK now. I got to fly the KLM 747-400. The 747-400 I have to say is very vey strong against very very strong turbulence. Over Russia since I was at the very back it was shaking a bit but the pilot said it was very very sever winds outside. There was clouds at 32,000 feet. At the end as the plane flew and the most turbulent place (the most northly route over russia) it was really shaking so hard even the crew had to sit down. At the end of the flight I got to go cockpit and the pilot said be glad your flying on the 747 because the turbulence would have been worse on other planes. Also the co pilot was very young, he was 22 That was a great time
 
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B747-8I airbourne 16.58 on maiden flight.
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Current expected landing time at Boeing Field around 21:20 GMT.

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Landed 21.24 GMT
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Old 20th Mar 2011, 21:59
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Cool

saw it land, looks nice,


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Happy 90th Birthday Joe Sutter - tomorrow.

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A friend of mine from work got these:





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coming to think for my next booking, is the 747-400 eqquiped with anti turbulence technology? And most importantly is it good. The 777 has it I belive but was not good. The last time I flew a 777 words cannot describe how bad the 777 was against turbulence and why is the back bumpy?
 
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Please do not discuss anti turbulence technology any further. This is a highly classified subject and you are placing yourself at great risk by disclosing it to the wrong people!
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 22:12
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Oh God--he knows too much! Get rid of your cell phone and put on your tinfoil hat before they find you!
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Truth be told, that anti-turbulence stuff only works in the hangar. You didn't hear it from me though.
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you mean it does not exsist? Well thats just . But why is it that secret? This is not about A vs B, wait... AHA!!! NASA

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Just though of something crazy, what if the 747-400 had two engines. Like one and four removed. Would it be more efficient than the 747-8 or 777? It would not carry as much as it would with four however but good for low weight flights Also when will the first 747-8 be delivered? I have a feeling it will before the 787
 
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I'm certain someone has considered the 747 twin possibilities, but here are some of the issues involved:

GE has used their 747-100 testbed to wring out many different development engines, installed in the #2 position. One problem is the great diameter of the GE90-115B means there is very little ground clearance, and so if the left wing is a bit low on landing, the nacelle can scrape the runway. This presents a real problem in a left crosswind, surely unacceptable for an airline's ops.

And all the 747 electrical, pneumatic, and hydraulic systems are predicated on four engines. This would mean a major design change to switch to two donks.
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Do you know the SFC for the GE90-115B? The CF6-80c2 is 36 to 38. But Iv always thought of the ground clearance, especially the 737. 48cm is the clearance between the ground and engine!
 
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Originally Posted by barit1
I'm certain someone has considered the 747 twin possibilities, but here are some of the issues involved:

GE has used their 747-100 testbed to wring out many different development engines, installed in the #2 position. One problem is the great diameter of the GE90-115B means there is very little ground clearance, and so if the left wing is a bit low on landing, the nacelle can scrape the runway. This presents a real problem in a left crosswind, surely unacceptable for an airline's ops.

And all the 747 electrical, pneumatic, and hydraulic systems are predicated on four engines. This would mean a major design change to switch to two donks.
Not to mention all of the structure is designed around 4 engines rather than 2. A two-engined 747 would be pretty much a clean-sheet design merely inspired by the Queen.
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beautiful, a they make combi? What will KLM replace there -400 combi with?
 
Old 14th Apr 2011, 03:40
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hey coming back to big aircrafts in small cities check this article outhttp://news.travel.aol.com/2011/04/12/small-airports-boeing-747-8-traffic/
 


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