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THERE ARE RULES, AND THERE ARE RULES.

Spectators Balcony (Spotters Corner) If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

THERE ARE RULES, AND THERE ARE RULES.

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Old 17th Apr 2010, 09:31
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THERE ARE RULES, AND THERE ARE RULES.

It would seem that some using this forum are unsure, unaware or are detached from that which they signed up to when they joined PPRuNe. Those rules are the basics for using PPRuNe and those which the moderators act upon. There are others which the owners of the site impose and we act on those as and when required.

Then we come to SPOTTERS BALCONY. This forum is for those who as it says at the top: If you're not a professional pilot but want to discuss issues about the job, this is the best place to loiter. You won't be moved on by 'security' and there'll be plenty of experts to answer any questions.

In a nutshell as they say. Spotters it has to be said are not always welcome in the professional forums, and for good reason, because some of them make a nuisance of themselves and upset the pros and natives. Although it is true to say that spotters are aviation enthusiasts who are just looking for a place to have fun and enjoy their hobby, there are others who like to think they are Professionals but who have no more experience than using the MS Flight simulator. We cannot stop them but we will act against them if they try to pass themselves off something they are not.

We recognise the fact that we were all spotters once, which is, more or less, why we have given them space on PPRuNe. However this is the forum for your fun.

Having said that. If you have questions about flying in the airline world you are free to put them here. I guarantee you will get answers from the Flight Deck or anywhere else.

Now, as for knocking moderators as was demonstrated last evening, that is a no no. It is moderator abuse and it will not be tolerated. It can get you an immediate ban or a permanent one. That also applies to naming names, abuse, snide, insults and the like so best be on good behaviour. We do delete posts if they are found to be any of the above or fall short of just being nice to each other, so best you try to act with good common sense.

That's about it. The rest is up to you. You can enjoy it for all its worth because it is there for that reason.

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Old 17th Apr 2010, 09:43
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Well said, lets hope the message gets through to some of these characters
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Old 27th Apr 2010, 10:23
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Hear hear! I too am fed up reading stories from people who are obviously making up stories and pretending they're pilots when they're not.
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Old 27th Apr 2010, 11:35
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Well Said

Well said Moderator. Looks like a case of the minority spoiling it for the majority through lack of respect for the rules . I have been a member here for a few years and feel slightly embarressed that some of the spotters on here do not respect the rules, as you could easily tarr us all with the same brush.

come on everyone play the game fairly...... its common sense

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Old 27th Apr 2010, 16:54
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Agreed... but some of the "Pro's" on this site need to show a lot more respect because whether we do it for a job or not we are all "spotters", and there are too many people on this site who seem to have lost their humility, care and respect for anything or anyone, and have made it their goal to rip shreds off people who are here to find information and share a common passion..

The first poster on this thread kevlarcarl is a repeat offender, and I put it to the moderator who posted this thread to have a look though Kev's posts and see just how much vitriol this person spits and just how useless , pointless and hurtful his presence on PPRuNe has been particularly in the spotters section.

Humility, care and respect.

Pretty simple
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Old 16th May 2010, 19:06
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lets hope the message gets through to some of these characters
Looks like it may have, given the arrival of this little fella.

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Fellow Spotters

On this forum it should be for spotters and enthusiasts to share information on their hobby only. There are plenty of other places on this site for the professional pilot to make his or her opinions / comments. I think this forum should be for the spotter only and the 'professional pilots' can go somewhere else to vent their frustrations. Glad I don't fly. I have a proper job !

Lets try and make it more relevant to the spotter and issues associated with our hobby ......

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Old 11th Dec 2010, 03:39
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Just another thing to add. I don't think this forum should be the place to ask a 'professional pilot' about issues about 'the job'. It should be about Aircraft spotting, issues, our treatment at various UK airports etc ..... Lets get some questions going on what aircraft are departing / arriving, any rare stuff, registrations etc ...... REAL SPOTTING STUFF !

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Old 11th Dec 2010, 08:02
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High'n Fast... I am a spotter but do not agree with you. Many airfields have their own "spotter" site, which are far more comprehensive than anything on here. There are spotter sites for just about every imaginable aircraft movement, civil, militray, overflying, etc., many of which break the law by publicising R/T conversations and revealing classified information.

PPRuNe is a respected site for professional aviation personnel and this particular forum is for people to "discuss issues about the job". I would hardly expect professional users to want it to be littered with lists of airfield movements which are freely available elsewhere.
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Old 21st Dec 2010, 19:33
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As It Is

Have to agree with Heathrow Director this is for aircrew and
those in the trade where we can ask questions and add our
own comments . I to am a spotter but there are things i
dont know about or understand this is the place for most
even if somtimes the comments are a bit over the top.
For Airfield movements and such info a search under
the airfield name or code on various search engines
will bring you thousands of groups , websites and forums
lets keep this as is .

Merry christmas one and all

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Quote from HEATHROW DIRECTOR
High'n Fast... I am a spotter but do not agree with you. Many airfields have their own "spotter" site, which are far more comprehensive than anything on here. There are spotter sites for just about every imaginable aircraft movement, civil, militray, overflying, etc., many of which break the law by publicising R/T conversations and revealing classified information.

PPRuNe is a respected site for professional aviation personnel and this particular forum is for people to "discuss issues about the job". I would hardly expect professional users to want it to be littered with lists of airfield movements which are freely available elsewhere.
Hear Hear, A true professional and an enthusiast as well.
Let's behave ourselves on here.
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Old 18th Aug 2011, 20:47
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Smile My first post

Hello to everyone,
This would be my first post so please take it easy on me ,
I was just hoping this was the proper forum to talk to people about their life in the flying world, I didn't want to get "moved on" as one said by describing myself (dreams included) and let other, more worldly wise people give me there opinion.
It would mostly be about the possibility of one day becoming a fully fledged pilot and if I might have what it takes .
You have undoubtedly heard it all before but if you don't put yourself out there. . .
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Old 19th Aug 2011, 00:38
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Welcome to PPRuNe. You will find many people on this site who are happy to help, However, I would suggest that you click on the following link, where you will find the answers to many of your questions;

http://www.pprune.org/professional-p...-question.html

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Old 30th Aug 2011, 11:26
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Moderator abuse will not be tolerated

Fair enough but that doesn't give mods the right to abuse members using language that they would consider abusive if applied to them

Remove a post. Yes. PM a member and point out the error, fine

Edit the members post to humiliate, belittle, abuse and ridicule him?

Unacceptable

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Why am I "not allowed to post atttachments"
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Old 8th Nov 2011, 04:17
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Why am I "not allowed to post atttachments"
Because if you and everyone else were allowed to post attachments the site would very soon be totally clogged up with umpty ump Trigabytes of attachments and there would be no disk space/bandwith for sensible discussions or anything else.

If you want to post photos then see instructions at the top of the forum pages, Photobucket.com is a good, free site.
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Dropbox is also a handy little tool that provide 2GB for free. It has a nice public folder where things can be posted then linked to forums and the like. Since finding it I'm something of a dropbox addict.
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Old 17th Apr 2012, 20:37
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Well, I have to agree that the hostility and abuse I suffered yesterday came as a shock. I do/did quickly see the error of my ways but seemed to make it worse.

I thought I was asking a question - and apologise for the (daft) way it was written.

I do of course respect the house rules - but wonder why a message isn't sent explaining where the offending post went wrong?

NB I do not claim to be knowledgeable or expert. The tag I have been given by the mods 'sciolist' could surely be construed as abusive?
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Inquest Report on Air Disasters/Accident

I want to read any/all Inquest Reports on Air Disasters/Accidents that have ever been carried out. Can I be guided as to where I can get this. Example is the Towcester, Northants Incident Report. thanks
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I want to read any/all Inquest Reports on Air Disasters/Accidents that have ever been carried out. Can I be guided as to where I can get this. Example is the Towcester, Northants Incident Report. thanks
Was that the Yak 52 in 2003?

Air Accidents Investigation: Yak-52, 024587

Was previously aware of this one because crash was very near here and I suspect i'd seen same a/c in Towcester/Tiffield area beforehand. I found it now though simply by searching 'Towcester' on AAIB site.
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