All SAS Dash-8 Q400 grounded
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All SAS Dash-8 Q400 grounded
All Q400 grounded due to a crack found in main landing gear. This is after multiple problems with the fleet, including many unsafe gears, uplocked gear, hydraulic leaks and losses of quantity in one system, many faults related to vibration; i.e. parts of structure fallen off in flight, excessive wear on hoses, uplock hooks, etc.
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<img src="confused.gif" border="0"> I don't get your point wilco. Grissom's post is timed at 2000+ and you saw a movement at 1650! Well, that a/c would have arrived at about 1740 and could well have been their last service before the grounding.
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Well I guess that it would have just been too good a solution to fix the damn piece of junk when they had every aircraft up to Sn 34 in for major modifications of the electric’s, the engine pylon, the wing joints and so on and so forth.
It’s not exactly the energizer bunny.
I have serious doubts that the flight ops department actually knew about the deal at all. I guess that you get what you pay for…
It’s not exactly the energizer bunny.
I have serious doubts that the flight ops department actually knew about the deal at all. I guess that you get what you pay for…
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JR and Avman,. .According to the newsmedia, all 17 aircraft were inspected overnight and found ok. Only mentioned aircraft individual had a crack in a bolt that keeps maingear up and locked. Should be all flying again!
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All A/C ok yeah, but during that inspection they found bells in the emergency gear release system not fixed, so in case of emergency release bell would have released instead of gear ! Appearently connected to factory modification on uplocks. Remember Jan 6th event in CPH, where a SAS Q400 couldnīt get one main gear down, neither with emergency release. Finally it come down after having reversed the normal and emergency down selection procedures.
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Nite_Flite, couldn't agree with you more!. .I happen to live so that I from time to time need to use SAS services. Unfortunately the route, which used to be flown by MD80 and 737s, is now mostly "serviced" <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> by the Crash8.. .The punctuality has, in my experience, never been worse.
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grissom; excuse my ingorance, but what are the 'bells' in the emergency gear lowering system ?
Don't remember covering those on our course.
Was talking to a SAS guy yesterday who confirmed that the uplocks were getting worn.
Ah, just realised, you probably mean 'bolts'
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Don't remember covering those on our course.
Was talking to a SAS guy yesterday who confirmed that the uplocks were getting worn.
Ah, just realised, you probably mean 'bolts'
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Uplinker...I kind of found it an amusing mistake by our autronaut Gus Grissom. Bells or Bolts! Just shows that this is a rumour network. Take it for what it is. A place to let of steam or tell a story of dubious character.. . <img src="smile.gif" border="0">
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"LAVDUMPER"
I spoke to a SAS Commuter captain who used to fly SAAB 2000 and currently flying 8Q-400. When comparing the "feel" of flying the 2000 was superior in his opinion. The 2000 was also superior in "searching-of-failure-procedurs", all in all, he favoured the SAAB2000.
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Two red
I spoke to a SAS Commuter captain who used to fly SAAB 2000 and currently flying 8Q-400. When comparing the "feel" of flying the 2000 was superior in his opinion. The 2000 was also superior in "searching-of-failure-procedurs", all in all, he favoured the SAAB2000.
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Thanks Two Red,
I have always been impressed with the speed and sleekness of the Saab 2000 - and the flighdeck is awesome with full EFIS displays. I am also impressed with the look of the Dash-8 Q400 - very elongated...
It would be nice to get experience on both types. No doubt you would be an EFIS expert after that type of experience - especially after flying in the Arctic weather during the blustery winters in those aircraft...
. .Cheers
I have always been impressed with the speed and sleekness of the Saab 2000 - and the flighdeck is awesome with full EFIS displays. I am also impressed with the look of the Dash-8 Q400 - very elongated...
It would be nice to get experience on both types. No doubt you would be an EFIS expert after that type of experience - especially after flying in the Arctic weather during the blustery winters in those aircraft...
. .Cheers
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Not really in the know on the pros and cons of the Q400 from a pilot point of view, but from down the back where the revenue stems from it's terrible. Well, terrible when compared to the the MD's or even 737's that used to serve the route I most frequently travel. It's noisy, the seats are way too narrow and it's slow(ish). The overhead bins is to small to hold my, slightly oversize, carry-on. And because the SAS Travel Book still lists either MD or 737 equipment, I find my self handing over the carry-on when boarding, not at check-en. Oh yeah, and it's remote parked too ...
Guess I have to live with it, but I am not going to like it.
Guess I have to live with it, but I am not going to like it.
