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Old 24th Apr 2000, 00:43
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Seaman Staines
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I hate censorship, but after the events last year which led to the outing of a QF pilot and the recent outing an SQ expat pilot by 'Judas' Skeltor for no other reason than the pilot said a couple of complimentary things about SIA, I have to agree with the PPPRuNe crew.

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Outing is Verboten, unless the person is either a known thief or a conman.
 
Old 24th Apr 2000, 01:25
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N***l H****s?
 
Old 24th Apr 2000, 01:54
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The whole thing about verifying identities would be a nightmare. With the worldwide lists of pilots, how is one to verify whether an individual's 'Number' is valid ?

Even though it is a little like 'Closing the barn door...' a method to Ban users a little like IRC might be a possibility.

As for maintaining anonymity, well, your post has the IP address logged, and your ISP has records of IP allocation. Not too difficult for the thought police to identify you really. AND THEY ARE OUT TO GET YOU !!

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Old 24th Apr 2000, 10:20
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Crankshaft
unregistered, does that mean "de-registered"?
Please advise!

HugMonster, I can't hear you.
 
Old 24th Apr 2000, 14:35
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What can I say? I get back from my trip and Crankshaft goes ballistic! I have no idea how he/she mamanged to post as an unregistered user but I think that he/she and many of you need to go back and re-read my original posting.

I have never tried to prevent anyone from accessing PPRuNe. If there is an interest in Professional Aviation then that person is welcome to participate as long as it is relevant. If it isn't relevant then I or my assistants are free to move a thread to a more relevant forum or delete it if it has absolutely no place on PPRuNe.

The logistics of even trying to control who does and who doesn't have access to whichever forum is far more difficult than you can imagine, especially when only I and a few close friends have access to the core of this software. Forget it. It will probably never happen and if we were to do that then the forums would become very sterile indeed.

I have been running this website for well over three years now and have watched it grow. So far I believe that it is continuing to grow in the direction that I want and all I am trying to do is reduce the amount of extra work that is generated for me by just a few people who do not take care with their postings or registrations.

In the meantime, now that I will have a few days to review what is going on I have unbanned Yahoo and Hotmail addresses. I never threatened to ban them permanently anyway.

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Old 26th Apr 2000, 00:49
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Hey guys, lets lighten up a bit here. Reading through all the posts, it sounds like a local parish council meeting, what with all the bull**** being thrown around. Censorship is not a good thing - If you don't like what you are reading, then log off! Any free forum is a place for discussion, throwing ideas around and generally chewing the fat. If we restrict this forum to who is generally seen to 'conform', then surely that is then not a 'free' forum!

Head down, waiting for the flak............
 
Old 26th Apr 2000, 03:56
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Two suggestions:
a) Name and shame (a strand with the out-of-favour listed on it)
b) Sin bin offenders (like with Flood Control)
c) A nice polite warning via E-mail
d) Teach the undesirables how to count!

PS: You are doing a great, great job with these forums. Many Thanx!

[This message has been edited by James R Swift (edited 25 April 2000).]
 
Old 26th Apr 2000, 04:27
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Zlin526

mate, you've lost the plot.
Read my post again.
If THE BOSS gets a complaint or threat from lawyers, 99 times out of a hundred it relates to some idiot naming someone.
I don't think that this is a "free" forum as you put it, "FREE" (for all) forums are found in Yahoo & Delphi etc.!

Staines.
 
Old 26th Apr 2000, 15:21
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Seamen, I think you're missing the point here. As an actual example, I have some infantile dweeb called Freeboot currently 'having a go' at me - he did the same at the end of December, beginning of January. Now, I enjoy a good verbal spar but a quick check of this guy's posts (under various guises) shows that the *only* postings he's done have been directed at me.

Despite repeated challenges from myself - and others - (s)he has declined to provide his/her identity and continues to snipe behind the cover of anonymity.

Given that I am trying to raise very large sums from investors at the moment - a number of whom are avid readers of this site - being labelled (and libelled) as a 'con man' by this d*ckhead causes potentially serious problems. This, by the way, is one of the reasons I spend so much time on here, responding to each and every allegation made!

Now, I have *never* hidden my identity - anyone is welcome to call me, have a beer, etc - but I am getting rather tetchy with certain intellectually-challenged types such as this.

So yes, something needs to be done.

Just my US$2 worth.

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Old 26th Apr 2000, 23:26
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The BOSS = Danny.

And it's Seaman, not Seamen...... wotchit or I'll report you to the SPELLING POLICE!
 
Old 27th Apr 2000, 18:54
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Dear Capt,
I do see and I am trying to full understand your problem here. But since I am not a "airline" pilot.(lol) but just a humble police officer who happens to only fly a C550, C210, UH60, and As350 and my patrol area is all over South and central America my opinions probably won't matter. But if they do, you can at least go to landings.com. You can look to see if a person here at least has a medical. I am ashamed to try to be part of the very "elite" (lol again) organization. Also lets not forget the "lowly" CFI's who helped out"just a little" who don"t have a employee number. I do see the problem but let us police ourselves, ok? And by the way. My email is [email protected]. I use it so I can get my mail overseas much easier. Feel free to write. By the way, you do a great job
Jerry Litton
ATP CFI/CFII, C550, Bh212, M O U S E

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[This message has been edited by overpaidgovtemployee (edited 28 April 2000).]
 
Old 28th Apr 2000, 20:27
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I don't agree with having to state employee ID's, employer details etc. Much of the value of this site comes from the fact that contributors remain anonymous. Without it, many posts would not be made, and most that were would be censored to the extreme by the author.

What about rating individual posts, or posters. A form of self-regulation. Each post could have a "Useful", "Vaguely Useful", "Not Relevant", "Not Useful", "Utter Trash" type rating. You read the post, click the radio button corresponding to your opinion and browse on. With that info in Danny's database, member ratings could then be displayed along with the "Date Joined" and "# posts" info that is currently displayed.

"Date Joined: <>"
"# Posts: 99"
"Very Useful: 99"
"Useful: 99"
etc etc. You see my point.

Then, when you read a post you can easily see a reader opinion history of the authors previous posts.

For example,
Grandad Flyer"
"Very Useful: 123"

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"Tommee Boiyd"
"Utter Trash: 99"

I admit this would be most useful for newcomers; regular readers get a feel pretty quickly who they would and wouldn't want to bump into in a pub.

Maybe it's a bit dictatorship-ish of me to suggest this but it would be nice to be able to flag for all (particularly newcomers) to see, those contributors who so obviously wish to contribute nothing except bad taste.

 
Old 28th Apr 2000, 21:10
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Within the next few months there is going to be a major upgrade to this bulletin board as it moves to a special server and new underlying software. This is going to be an expensive move but will speed things up dramatically and allow many new features to be introduced such as rating topics and a lot more customisation.

I will keep you informed as and when it is available.

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Old 4th Nov 2000, 03:23
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Hmmm - I thought this was the "Professional Pilots Rumour Network", not the "Airline Pilots Rumour Network".
 
Old 4th Nov 2000, 05:24
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BKN- you've hit the nail on it's head.
 
Old 4th Nov 2000, 20:22
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Don't you mean that you hit the nail on BKN's head?

Get a grip!
 
Old 4th Nov 2000, 21:19
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BKN

Over since months between Capt PPRuNe's post and yours.

Are you usually this slow?

 
Old 4th Nov 2000, 23:10
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Flintstone

BKN registered in October 2000

It will explain the recent discovery of this thread
 
Old 5th Nov 2000, 03:50
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Ok. Maybe I should have asked what his/her point was.

Come to that, why am I bothering either?
 

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