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With The Guvnor on this one! You name people, you get named yourself.
Going for Few Cloudy's suggestion as regards giving a credit card number on sign-up seems like a good idea.
And to Cpt. Pprune: in 6 months of reading Pprune I've learned more about what goes on in the cockpit, the way decisions are made and the dilemma's pilots face, than in 18 years on the job as a FA.
Reading the technical threads is a lot of fun too, improves understanding no end.
So a Big Kiss to yourself for starting this whole thing up, and maintaining it so nicely!
JLS
Going for Few Cloudy's suggestion as regards giving a credit card number on sign-up seems like a good idea.
And to Cpt. Pprune: in 6 months of reading Pprune I've learned more about what goes on in the cockpit, the way decisions are made and the dilemma's pilots face, than in 18 years on the job as a FA.
Reading the technical threads is a lot of fun too, improves understanding no end.
So a Big Kiss to yourself for starting this whole thing up, and maintaining it so nicely!
JLS
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I'm with Guv. If you look at the Letters section of Flight/Times/Daily whatever, you'll often see a letter printed, signed "name & address supplied".
Would it be enough if worried memebers kept their e-mail addresses c/o pprune? The Capts could then sort out the trouble makers.
Just an idea,
rgds Rat
Would it be enough if worried memebers kept their e-mail addresses c/o pprune? The Capts could then sort out the trouble makers.
Just an idea,
rgds Rat
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Controlling access via e-mail addresses is always going to be difficult and it's easy enough to get around a block on Hotmail amd Yahoo ones - there are hundreds of free e-mail sites offering quick addreses available. A determined individual will get get onto the site quite easily. But that is really part of the ethos of a site like this. The UBB software is designed to make it easy for people log on quickly and join in a "converstation". With this comes the snag that morons can get on post inflammatory or offensive material with ease.
I don't believe that ID numbers and other proofs of qualification are the way ahead at all. This immediately excludes retired aviators, wannabes and the travelling public. It would also remove a lot of the variety of opinion and input that is seen on this site.
Could I suggest that as well as providing a hotmail (etc) address at sign up it becomes a requirement to provide your proper e-mail address (to pprune admin only) and that the password be e-mailed to that address. Something like that might remove the feeling of total anonimity that the abusive poster currently enjoys.
Keep up the good (and, I would imagine, time consuming and at times frustrating) work. Your efforts are appreciated.
PS. I'm guilty of being a multi-name user. I used to be Fat Albert but the hotmail account lapsed and I haven't a clue what my password for that name was
I don't believe that ID numbers and other proofs of qualification are the way ahead at all. This immediately excludes retired aviators, wannabes and the travelling public. It would also remove a lot of the variety of opinion and input that is seen on this site.
Could I suggest that as well as providing a hotmail (etc) address at sign up it becomes a requirement to provide your proper e-mail address (to pprune admin only) and that the password be e-mailed to that address. Something like that might remove the feeling of total anonimity that the abusive poster currently enjoys.
Keep up the good (and, I would imagine, time consuming and at times frustrating) work. Your efforts are appreciated.
PS. I'm guilty of being a multi-name user. I used to be Fat Albert but the hotmail account lapsed and I haven't a clue what my password for that name was
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You're probably right swombat but Danny thought it only fair to let folks know what he was doing.
Thanks for all your views. While I know that you realise a miniscule minority of posts and posters actually take up a hugely disproportionate amount of our time there are periods when we have to offload as many potential problems as possible.
Thus the action on certain addresses. You still have PPRuNe and we get a breather during periods of high workload. Yes, it is a compromise but one that seems to work for most people.
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Thanks for all your views. While I know that you realise a miniscule minority of posts and posters actually take up a hugely disproportionate amount of our time there are periods when we have to offload as many potential problems as possible.
Thus the action on certain addresses. You still have PPRuNe and we get a breather during periods of high workload. Yes, it is a compromise but one that seems to work for most people.
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I agree with Few Cloudy, a good example of a poster with the IQ of a dog biscuit 4 up.
My name and address are well known to THE BOSS and my little fwend with the 747SP.
I live in hope that this conman takes me to a UK court one day.
There won't be enough room on a 747 for all my witnesses
My name and address are well known to THE BOSS and my little fwend with the 747SP.
I live in hope that this conman takes me to a UK court one day.
There won't be enough room on a 747 for all my witnesses
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Boys boys calm down,
Im sure someone said to a new member on here recently "read some, write some, ignore some". Good advice if you dont like something someones said ignore it.I`m sure Crankshaft was just taking issue with the fact that everyone should be able to post on here be it mere PPL`s like myself who can offer advice to other PPL`s who one day themselves may be flying A320`s. Pprune is a valuable resource for people like myself. It is hard enough to gain a commercial license but if Mr Jobsworth A320 had his own way none of us would be able to access this information.
Im sure someone said to a new member on here recently "read some, write some, ignore some". Good advice if you dont like something someones said ignore it.I`m sure Crankshaft was just taking issue with the fact that everyone should be able to post on here be it mere PPL`s like myself who can offer advice to other PPL`s who one day themselves may be flying A320`s. Pprune is a valuable resource for people like myself. It is hard enough to gain a commercial license but if Mr Jobsworth A320 had his own way none of us would be able to access this information.
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Thanks for your input CrankCaller.
Your post proves the point to a certain extent though. You and Dr Smirnoff decided to add your opinion (valid - no matter what others may think - we're all entitled to an opinion). The software makes it easy to get a password in no time at all and then, bingo, your reasoned thought joins everyone elses.
Your post isn't offensive (we all adult enough to cope with name calling)and isn't libellous or abusive (no it isn't really).
But surely you can see how easy it would be for people to get onto the forum and post things that are.
All Capt Pprune is trying to do is find a way to regulate the amount of witless drivel that gets on the site - surely that's not too much to ask.
PS. I've been following this site for a couple of years now and have a vague understanding of the work that is required to keep the site working. If my acknowledgement of that fact makes me a brown-nose then so be it. Sticks and stones etc.
Your post proves the point to a certain extent though. You and Dr Smirnoff decided to add your opinion (valid - no matter what others may think - we're all entitled to an opinion). The software makes it easy to get a password in no time at all and then, bingo, your reasoned thought joins everyone elses.
Your post isn't offensive (we all adult enough to cope with name calling)and isn't libellous or abusive (no it isn't really).
But surely you can see how easy it would be for people to get onto the forum and post things that are.
All Capt Pprune is trying to do is find a way to regulate the amount of witless drivel that gets on the site - surely that's not too much to ask.
PS. I've been following this site for a couple of years now and have a vague understanding of the work that is required to keep the site working. If my acknowledgement of that fact makes me a brown-nose then so be it. Sticks and stones etc.
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Crankshaft,
Well said. Some of these jackasses live on ‘Fantasy Island’ and want nothing more than a ‘nice little pen-pal club’ where they can all slap each other on the back and sound off about what a great job they’re doing for the industry, and be identified of course. But I thought their posts seem to say, “here I am, put sh#t on me!” and I was happy to oblige. (Sound of penny dropping!) Damn, I was so mistaken – they didn’t mean that at all.
The majority of subscribers use pseudonyms. In doing so they have the opportunity to play out roles on a public forum that they may not care to do within their base environment. And that’s okay. The site serves as a sounding board. Ideas are exchanged laterally and vertically. It’s a bit like management on a global scale.
But pseudonyms also protect the abuser and the abusee from identification and therefore, as Ironbut57 alluded, provide anonymity. Could you imagine the laughter in court when the bailiff calls ‘Scooby Doo’ and ‘Cyclic Hotline’ as witnesses in the case of ‘After Burner’ –v- ‘Jack Schitt’. Bring on the ‘Mad Hatter’ and we got a tea party!
This is a great site. Don’t kill it by demanding accountability from the masses. An if you don’t like what I write, threaten me with legal action – I have included my e-mail address just for laughs!
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Well said. Some of these jackasses live on ‘Fantasy Island’ and want nothing more than a ‘nice little pen-pal club’ where they can all slap each other on the back and sound off about what a great job they’re doing for the industry, and be identified of course. But I thought their posts seem to say, “here I am, put sh#t on me!” and I was happy to oblige. (Sound of penny dropping!) Damn, I was so mistaken – they didn’t mean that at all.
The majority of subscribers use pseudonyms. In doing so they have the opportunity to play out roles on a public forum that they may not care to do within their base environment. And that’s okay. The site serves as a sounding board. Ideas are exchanged laterally and vertically. It’s a bit like management on a global scale.
But pseudonyms also protect the abuser and the abusee from identification and therefore, as Ironbut57 alluded, provide anonymity. Could you imagine the laughter in court when the bailiff calls ‘Scooby Doo’ and ‘Cyclic Hotline’ as witnesses in the case of ‘After Burner’ –v- ‘Jack Schitt’. Bring on the ‘Mad Hatter’ and we got a tea party!
This is a great site. Don’t kill it by demanding accountability from the masses. An if you don’t like what I write, threaten me with legal action – I have included my e-mail address just for laughs!
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Anonymity is a must for people in certain situations. I am lucky enough to have a UK freeserve address but there are compelling reasons why I cannot show my more common email address (though I'll happily give it to The Towers, and genuine email via my freeserve gets answered)
Some writers may be using their company email connection and not want uncomplimentary mentions of their company replied to on an address that their supervisor might be reading - there are even worse scnarios than this too!
But, of course, I understand the action taken by The Towers - it's a temporary thing - and as Danny has commented, he does this for us and he would like the occasional evening out with his wife and/or girlfriend!
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Some writers may be using their company email connection and not want uncomplimentary mentions of their company replied to on an address that their supervisor might be reading - there are even worse scnarios than this too!
But, of course, I understand the action taken by The Towers - it's a temporary thing - and as Danny has commented, he does this for us and he would like the occasional evening out with his wife and/or girlfriend!
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