The Most Hairy Approach ?
The Most Hairy Approach ?
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since i have only been to kathmandu as slf
on a sq A310 i cannot really comment as to
how hairy it is, but i have heard there is
a 4500m mountain somewhere in the flightpath
that aircraft have to fly over (the 727 a couple of years ago didn't and flew strait into it)
on a sq A310 i cannot really comment as to
how hairy it is, but i have heard there is
a 4500m mountain somewhere in the flightpath
that aircraft have to fly over (the 727 a couple of years ago didn't and flew strait into it)
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Gentlemen,
Try Tamanrasset, South Algeria (central Sahara) when a huge haboob is blowing. Your given the most basic instructions to commence an approach using aids that are not turned on!!!!!
TWR 'Cleared VOR approach'
ME 'Confirm VOR radiating'
TWR 'Negative'
What more can I say.
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'Keep the stress down'
Try Tamanrasset, South Algeria (central Sahara) when a huge haboob is blowing. Your given the most basic instructions to commence an approach using aids that are not turned on!!!!!
TWR 'Cleared VOR approach'
ME 'Confirm VOR radiating'
TWR 'Negative'
What more can I say.
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'Keep the stress down'
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My most hairy approach would have to be the one into my home airport, after being in the bush for three weeks without a razor.......boy that was ugly.
Well some one had to say it.
Well some one had to say it.
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StressFree ...
Geez mate, and here was me thinking it was bad in my corner of the planet. Here, all navaids are "pilot monitored" so if ya hear nuthin, ya got nuthin ... and ya know it before ATC does. Used to be that way with the ILS too...
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Once a king, always a king.
But once a nite's enough!
TWR 'Cleared VOR approach'
ME 'Confirm VOR radiating'
TWR 'Negative'
ME 'Confirm VOR radiating'
TWR 'Negative'
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Once a king, always a king.
But once a nite's enough!
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AKAAB re. Aspen. Unfortunately not anymore. It used to close at thirty min. after offical sundown and reopen thirty min. before or after offical sunrise, I have forgoten now.
But now the airport opens at 07:00 LT in the morning and closes to landing at 22:30 LT and for takeoff at 23:00 LT for stage III aircraft. Stage II aircraft have earlier times for night takeoffs. I really don't know when the times changed to allow night time operations.
In the winter time with a full moon and when the mountains are covered with snow it's not to bad, kind of pretty to tell the truth.
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But now the airport opens at 07:00 LT in the morning and closes to landing at 22:30 LT and for takeoff at 23:00 LT for stage III aircraft. Stage II aircraft have earlier times for night takeoffs. I really don't know when the times changed to allow night time operations.
In the winter time with a full moon and when the mountains are covered with snow it's not to bad, kind of pretty to tell the truth.
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Kathmandu approach seems to be pretty notorious. 6 degree approach path, large mountain. The "Sierra approach" is apparently very complicated and at least 2 heavy jets(an A310 and an A300) crashed while conducting this approach about 8 years ago, both within a month or so of each other
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Yep, been to Quito-Ecuador.
Nice high altitude, nice high approach speed.
Lately the ILS signal has been more or less steady, though.
So that makes tracking inbound easier. You got to abandon the GS right after the little ridge, push the nose over, and not forget to flare aggressively for that hefty upsloping runway 35. Brake overtemps are common after that.
But I'd call it fun, not hairy. (yet)
(now if the volcano would blow ... )
Nice high altitude, nice high approach speed.
Lately the ILS signal has been more or less steady, though.
So that makes tracking inbound easier. You got to abandon the GS right after the little ridge, push the nose over, and not forget to flare aggressively for that hefty upsloping runway 35. Brake overtemps are common after that.
But I'd call it fun, not hairy. (yet)
(now if the volcano would blow ... )
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Regarding ASE and night ops - thanks for the update. It's only been about a year or so since I last flew in there. I guess the locals finally decided it was okay for airplanes to fly at night.
BTW - the only time I've ever had to declare and emergency was on a missed approach off Aspen. ATC wanted to make us hold for Eagle with a :40 EFC. We were in a Lr24....nuff said!
AKAAB
BTW - the only time I've ever had to declare and emergency was on a missed approach off Aspen. ATC wanted to make us hold for Eagle with a :40 EFC. We were in a Lr24....nuff said!
AKAAB
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Sobelena
ROTFLMAO have to echo Stressfrees' remark, although it would be a close race with the Italians.
But getting back to the main game, in GA in Oz it's less about aids than the lack of them and environment.
Landing on a PAL airport/flarepath in the desert out the back of nowhere, without ILS/PAPI/VASI approach guidance on a moonless night under 9/8s cloud without ANY other civilisation (ie lights for some sort of a horizon, although in and of itself equally hazardous)in ANY direction, often without an airport aid of any sort. Back to basics then I can tell you. Pucker factor way up there.
We talk about "the inside of a cow on a dark night"
ROTFLMAO have to echo Stressfrees' remark, although it would be a close race with the Italians.
But getting back to the main game, in GA in Oz it's less about aids than the lack of them and environment.
Landing on a PAL airport/flarepath in the desert out the back of nowhere, without ILS/PAPI/VASI approach guidance on a moonless night under 9/8s cloud without ANY other civilisation (ie lights for some sort of a horizon, although in and of itself equally hazardous)in ANY direction, often without an airport aid of any sort. Back to basics then I can tell you. Pucker factor way up there.
We talk about "the inside of a cow on a dark night"
