Jaguar landing at Leeds airport?
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Jaguar landing at Leeds airport?
Was walking home today (live near Leeds airport) and heard a loud roar. Turned to see a jag (I think?) landing at Leeds airport. Lived here for 4 years and never seen anything military land there - any info guys?
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Fannnntastic gen Iain. Let me get this right - Speedblimp777 asks whether any of us have the foggiest what a Jag was doing at Leeds, UK and you have a brainf@rt about having seen marine choppers shooting 
low approaches in the US. There's a village out there that needs you my boy .
low approaches in the US. There's a village out there that needs you my boy .
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S777,
It's SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] for the UK Military to do "Practice Diversions" to most Civil A/Fs in the UK.
EG, Hawks:- Valley to Liverpool/Warton VFR return.
Jetstream/HS125s Cranwell Navex, plus Approach and 'Go Around' at TeesSide/Leeds/Newcastle
Leeming [Tornado F3's] Linton [Tucans] ALL do Navex/Airways Training and 75% end up in an "approach" to a Civvie airfield
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
It's SOP [Standard Operating Procedure] for the UK Military to do "Practice Diversions" to most Civil A/Fs in the UK.
EG, Hawks:- Valley to Liverpool/Warton VFR return.
Jetstream/HS125s Cranwell Navex, plus Approach and 'Go Around' at TeesSide/Leeds/Newcastle
Leeming [Tornado F3's] Linton [Tucans] ALL do Navex/Airways Training and 75% end up in an "approach" to a Civvie airfield
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
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Leeds is quite a common Practice Div for the Hawks out of Valley if nowhere else will accept them for an approach. Little further away than Warton/Blackpool but better than none at all. Coventry for night PD`s is quite common too. And if the jet should unfortunately have a minor snag, Leeds is a great night stop compared to Holyhead!
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You asked: "facility" to autoland...
Well, (having autolanded at Leeds before myself...) I would like to point out (to the chorus of many “Boo’s!” out there!) that there are many "facilities" capable of autolanding even a Mallard DUCK - IF the (duck) is so equipped!!
Serious answer: NO IDEA what has autoland capability in the armed forces (of whoever's country). You'd think at least the C-17 is?
I’ll defer that answer to those that salute for a living! I seriously doubt the Jaguar (or anything in that category) can autoland (but I’ve been wrong before!).
Leeds is a regular diversionary practice aerodrome, by the way. I have to agree with one poster thatLeeds makes for a darn sight better overnight stop than many on HM’s approved diversionary list!
Leeds can be a whopper of a place to LAND at, yet alone autoland. Landing north, that darn strip drops away EXACTLY at the point the rubber-bits normally tend to kiss the ground, so you can wind up chasing terra-firma for an uncomfortable length of time. Throw in the Autoland equation, and add the manufacturers recommended maximum tailwind component and you have a VERY interesting arrival. In my opinion even HALF the recommended tailwind is a tad on the “holy CRA-P!” end of the scale. Ahh the memories…
By the way, last time I was in the Lake District I had the CRAP spooked out of me (and Mrs. Darr) when two of Her Majesty's finest winged-wonders shot past us AT EYE-LEVEL at a fabulous rate (somewhere near Hardknott pass - FABULOUS place, huh?!). It brought a "Go Get'Em Boys!" cheer from both of us those magnificent Jaguars headed west!
~Ray Darr
(Edited to add in some reminiscing)
[ 22 November 2001: Message edited by: Ray Darr ]
Well, (having autolanded at Leeds before myself...) I would like to point out (to the chorus of many “Boo’s!” out there!) that there are many "facilities" capable of autolanding even a Mallard DUCK - IF the (duck) is so equipped!!
Serious answer: NO IDEA what has autoland capability in the armed forces (of whoever's country). You'd think at least the C-17 is?
I’ll defer that answer to those that salute for a living! I seriously doubt the Jaguar (or anything in that category) can autoland (but I’ve been wrong before!).Leeds is a regular diversionary practice aerodrome, by the way. I have to agree with one poster thatLeeds makes for a darn sight better overnight stop than many on HM’s approved diversionary list!
Leeds can be a whopper of a place to LAND at, yet alone autoland. Landing north, that darn strip drops away EXACTLY at the point the rubber-bits normally tend to kiss the ground, so you can wind up chasing terra-firma for an uncomfortable length of time. Throw in the Autoland equation, and add the manufacturers recommended maximum tailwind component and you have a VERY interesting arrival. In my opinion even HALF the recommended tailwind is a tad on the “holy CRA-P!” end of the scale. Ahh the memories…
By the way, last time I was in the Lake District I had the CRAP spooked out of me (and Mrs. Darr) when two of Her Majesty's finest winged-wonders shot past us AT EYE-LEVEL at a fabulous rate (somewhere near Hardknott pass - FABULOUS place, huh?!). It brought a "Go Get'Em Boys!" cheer from both of us those magnificent Jaguars headed west!
~Ray Darr
(Edited to add in some reminiscing)
[ 22 November 2001: Message edited by: Ray Darr ]
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If anyone is night stopping at Leeds,
here is a little tip.
Jump into a taxi and head for Otley
(about 5 miles and 6 Quid)
A great night out with propper beer,
you can stand on just about any street
corner and see at least 3 other pubs.
Wish I still lived there!!!
Alcohol, letting ugly people have sex since 1669!!!
here is a little tip.
Jump into a taxi and head for Otley
(about 5 miles and 6 Quid)
A great night out with propper beer,
you can stand on just about any street
corner and see at least 3 other pubs.
Wish I still lived there!!!
Alcohol, letting ugly people have sex since 1669!!!
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Negative, one just appreciates, a good piece of engineering, Draper always looks up when he hears a strange engine sound.
If visiting the Londonderry Lorry park Cafe, at Leeming one would take ones pot of tea and egg butty and sit beside the runway and watch the F3's at play for a while.
One always intended to visit the Leeming air show, but it was one of those things one would always do next year alas.
One can also recognise the various craft our brave aviators drive, but one is hardly qualified as a spotter.
If visiting the Londonderry Lorry park Cafe, at Leeming one would take ones pot of tea and egg butty and sit beside the runway and watch the F3's at play for a while.
One always intended to visit the Leeming air show, but it was one of those things one would always do next year alas.
One can also recognise the various craft our brave aviators drive, but one is hardly qualified as a spotter.