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Old 24th Nov 2000, 18:13
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Would you people stop going on about this?

I`ve just quit!

The fewer references to, images of, opinions about or arguments over SMOKING the better. In my opinion. Thanks.
 
Old 25th Nov 2000, 04:27
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Ive never smoked in my life so I dont Know Jack about it....But:Just suppose for a minute that cigarretes had never been invented to date.How many of you smokers,would, individually think up such a silly idea for yourselves without any outside influence? Not so many I bet.It is only so popular because you were born into a world where the habit is 'normal'. You have all been had by the Government who have set up their own equivelent of a drug dealer network. They tempt you with availability so they can get you hooked and then cream off their cut in tax. They tried to make themselves look innocent by banning advertizing some years ago but hey, that was not going to worry their profit margins, they just rely on the suckers that are hopelessly addicted to keep the momentum going for them!
So what about sueing the Governments of the world,not the airlins.Perhaps Lawyerboy could advise. If this idea seems too far fetched then perhaps Ive been getting too much fresh air!
P.S. Lawyerboy, I was wondering if you (or anyone with a flair for Aviation Law) could point me to a definition for 'Airworthy' as this is not specified in JAR 1 definitions section.It's for another topic but I wont go into detail here, in case I get my wrist slapped. Cheers all.
 
Old 29th Nov 2000, 19:45
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You mean public pools don't have pissing sections???
 
Old 29th Nov 2000, 20:20
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I am a smoker. At the moment, I am having another go at quitting, but that is really irrelevent as there is no such thing as an ex-smoker. Only a lucky few *never* go back to the dreaded weed.

Two things, however, totally wind me up:

1) Would all the sanctimonious, holier-than-thou non-smokers who go on and on about how the quality of their lives is destroyed by smokers please bear in mind some of the difficulties we face. Many of us would like to give up - unfortunately, nicotine is several times more addictive than heroin. Consider also, if you can, the emotional and physical distress of being denied a substance to which you are addicted, and which you are accustomed to comsuming at roughly hourly intervals - for ten hours or more. Is it any wonder that the incidence of air-rage is on the increase?

2) Smoking is not illegal. We are breaking no laws by lighting up. If you don't like it, don't bitch at me - bitch at the governments who will do nothing about banning cigs because they cannot afford to lose the tax revenue.

3) The amount of damage done to a non-smoker on a smoking flight to the US must be pretty irrelevant compared to spending 2 hours a day in traffic jams in London, or breathing in the organophosphate fumes leaking from the engines through the air system in a BAe 146 (the vomit-like stench).

When you get down to the bottom line, smoking is bad. Nobody denies that any more. However, it would be nice if we could limit the amount of hysterical witch-hunting that seems so fashionable at the moment. There are plenty more things out there waiting to kill you.
 
Old 30th Nov 2000, 22:53
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well said eternal_optimist,
i couldn't agree more!
 
Old 1st Dec 2000, 02:04
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I agree too with you eternal_optimist.

If every person in the world quit smoking cigs, right now....how much would all governments in the world lose in tax dollars?
 
Old 1st Dec 2000, 20:31
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… about one fifth of what smoking costs those same governments, (or more correctly, us, the taxpayers), in Public Health costs associated with smoking, Azure.
 
Old 2nd Dec 2000, 00:27
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Ex Sim Guy - Oops GF went no-smoking October - guess you didn't enjoy that flight as much as you thought you would.

Lady Matilda - don't know why you winge so much when there are so many no-smoking airlines to choose from!

Azure - totally agree. I am a smoker who prefers no-smoking flights - but the body odours seem to have taken over that us smokers have no right to complain about.

Would be nice if spraying perfume, taking off shoes, f**ting, coughing, spitting, vomiting, mobile phones, rudeness, arrogance etc could also be dealt with the same gusto that anti-smoking was!
 
Old 11th Dec 2000, 04:46
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How many non smokers do you see walking down a busy city street wearing face masks accusing motorists of polluting THEIR airspace. Self righteous gits. The atmosphere belongs to everyone clean or dirty. If you dont smoke, start.. antagonist.
 
Old 17th Dec 2000, 01:46
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All people have some habit(some have more than one)that others will find distatsteful or annoying.I can see that smoking can be a bit unpleasant to people who dont smoke but hey,I might have to sit next to someone with an IQ of 90 or an Al Gore voter or some chick who thinks she's lady Helena Bonham-Carter.I dont winge..Life isnt perfect
 
Old 18th Dec 2000, 14:14
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What is unacceptable is to have no-smoking airports, IAD as an example. No smoking corner while you're in transit between 2 long hauls!. Shame on them.
 
Old 18th Dec 2000, 17:41
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Eternal,

Great to hear you're trying to quit, but as for the rest, what a crock of SH!T.

It really breaks my heart to hear that you might have to sit a confined aluminium tube for 10 hours without a smoke. Blah, blah, whine, whine I only think of myself and F@CK the world around me!

Get a life, the airline industry is going non-smoking, if you can't hack it - travel to the US by boat!

Air rage, nothing a pair of handcuffs can't fix! Oh, and imagine being in that London traffic with a ciggy dangling from your lips - now that really WILL kill you.

[This message has been edited by MileHi (edited 18 December 2000).]
 
Old 19th Dec 2000, 00:38
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Well,
I suppose everybody must have some kind of a vice; some drink, some bonk, some smoke and some opt to soothe the beast within with healthy doses of self-righteous bullsh$t.
Whatever get's you through the day, I guess....

Anybody got a light?

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Un diva très doué.
 

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