Vueling - "sorry door problem at front, have to tape it off, but it's ok honest "

[Dogma]

Bit of a simple view of the MEL

I have massive respect for our Ginger Beers, they are very professional and a good laugh when in "PP Bananas" Nagoya Batam or such like.

There are many things that dispite what the MEL says....I would not take. "Captain, I have done what I can, its up to you"

[Filler Dent]

"There are many things that dispite what the MEL says....I would not take."

Then you get that call from the flight crew manager and suddenly you're going.

Seriously though, the significant defects often generate a good chat about what should be done - and that's the way it should be.

[TURIN]

Look, this is just not on!

This thread is starting to descend into a mutual appreciation society debate between engineer and pilot.

That is not what the industry leaders want.

It is not 'Proon' either.
Stop it at once before something good comes of it!

[Ankaput]

Hysteric passengers

4potflyer - really! these 'hysteric passengers' you refer to probably know nothing of aeroplanes at all - simply that they are a bus with wings with you at the pointy end driving it. And why should they know? I am actually quite pleased they asked questions.

I very much doubt that you have the knowledge a great proportion of the passengers behind you have either - from brain surgery to cooking a decent lamb roast - hey, everyone has skill areas!

And we pay your wages. So, if we ask a question or two - what's so bad about that? Try passing on your expensively acquired knowledge and win some friends. I am sure if you asked us - we do have brains and knowledge even though we are amusingly referred to as SLF - we probably have the courtesy to acknowledge your interest and give you a straight answer, not a sneer.

Try it some time. Freight thinks and speaks.

[Pedro]

VOD (very old story)

This "revelation"about taped off seats (standard procedure) occurred a long time ago early in the airline's life. To their credit they used this event as a training example of how extra careful one has to be in the presentation of anything unfamiliar to the passengers. Not really much of a story - furthermore there was more than a hint of malicious intent in the original reporting of the story in the press.

[cwatters]

Look at it this way... You arrive at the dentist, and get sat in the chair, the loacal anesthetic is applied ready for your filling. As the drill bit approaches you notice it's a funny shape and the dentist says "We're having a bit of a problem with the drill bits at the moment but it's ok honest".

[Pugilistic Animus]

Maybe--- I don't know if the pilot's were misquoted---the word 'safety' or 'problem' were involved, that wording, is what stirred up the pax---so many phrases --I learned should be avoided---and some are seemingly harmless---but once they here safety I've sat on flights near nervous pax and they really think ---there's imminent danger--at all times ---every--- sound every sight---but since the announcement was perhaps in Spanish something may have been lost in the translation---Can anyone can post a link GOOD news article in Spanish so that I can see if the nuances were correctly translated?---some of the translations I've seen in the US are pretty silly


PA

[1DC]

Flew from Nice to Douala once and the front door of the French DC8 was taped up, no problem from the passengers apart from one African chap who went crazy because he was travelling first class and was being made to board from the rear door. He stuck by his guns and refused to board, we left without him..