Concorde landmark to go....
gordonroxburgh:
Concorde was just as much a part of the French nations heritage ... and they managed to scrap F-BVFD ....
from concordesst.com ...
... seems to be what's being suggested here
http://www.concordesst.com/211.html
there are some pictures on airliners.net of the dismantling if you search on the registration
JAS
BA's problem is that can't scrap a Concorde, its too big a part of the UK nations heritage. It would be a PR disaster, and they know that.
from concordesst.com ...
It was later broken up in 1994, at Charles de Gaulle, Paris, France. After being out of service for 12 years it had suffered serious corrosion.
http://www.concordesst.com/211.html
there are some pictures on airliners.net of the dismantling if you search on the registration
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Just a Spotter,
GordonRoxburgh is actually the web master of www.concordesst.com. It is his website. He was also very heavily involved with ensuring G-BBDG didn't end up suffering the same fate as F-BVFD and I think we can say he has done a remarkable job of that.
Moving on,
F-BVFD was scrapped back in 1994 when Concorde was still very much alive and kicking. Back then that was the only airframe that was unflyable so I guess the thinking back then was to simply scrap it as there were already Concorde's in museums from the test programs and I guess it never even crossed their minds to preserve that one as a retirement was still a long way off. Also that a/c had been used as a spares source for AF much like DG had been for BA so there wasn't much left of it to preserve as all the other spares were needed for the flyable a/c, so there wouldn't have been any left over to restore it as was the case with DG which was done with spares no longer needed after the retirements. Well thats my theory on it anyway. Not sure how accutate it is.
GordonRoxburgh is actually the web master of www.concordesst.com. It is his website. He was also very heavily involved with ensuring G-BBDG didn't end up suffering the same fate as F-BVFD and I think we can say he has done a remarkable job of that.
Moving on,
F-BVFD was scrapped back in 1994 when Concorde was still very much alive and kicking. Back then that was the only airframe that was unflyable so I guess the thinking back then was to simply scrap it as there were already Concorde's in museums from the test programs and I guess it never even crossed their minds to preserve that one as a retirement was still a long way off. Also that a/c had been used as a spares source for AF much like DG had been for BA so there wasn't much left of it to preserve as all the other spares were needed for the flyable a/c, so there wouldn't have been any left over to restore it as was the case with DG which was done with spares no longer needed after the retirements. Well thats my theory on it anyway. Not sure how accutate it is.
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Good site Gordon!
The remaining concorde airframes are all worth saving and maintaining. It is/was a wonderful piece of engineering and like many other steps in aeronautic development from the Wright Flyer a bold step.
It would be a shame to lose anymore.
JAS
Good site Gordon!
The remaining concorde airframes are all worth saving and maintaining. It is/was a wonderful piece of engineering and like many other steps in aeronautic development from the Wright Flyer a bold step.
It would be a shame to lose anymore.
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Were Ok at the moment with the real one at LHR.
There are a lot of arguments against doing what the french did at CDG (and with the one in Germany). Once stuck up on a pole you can get at it easily to do any maintenance. Additionally it was not designed to sit at that attitude. When it rains the water does not drain correctly and you will end up with corrosion where you least expect and can't get to it, so bad idea all round sadly.
Lets leave the stuffed on a pole stuff to the models
There are a lot of arguments against doing what the french did at CDG (and with the one in Germany). Once stuck up on a pole you can get at it easily to do any maintenance. Additionally it was not designed to sit at that attitude. When it rains the water does not drain correctly and you will end up with corrosion where you least expect and can't get to it, so bad idea all round sadly.
Lets leave the stuffed on a pole stuff to the models
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Gordon not sure forgotten at Hatton Cross is a good definition of OK. They're made of metal and won't last forever and at least the Air France one at CDG looks impressive and will do for a few more years, People can see and experience the aircraft.
G-BBDG wasn't saved to prevent a PR debacle, it was saved because they wanted it gone and someone was willing to take it. And I am immensely grateful and looking forward to going to Brooklands to see it. I had never seen her and always assumed she would be scrapped .
Assuming that the 20 years in the outdoors refers to G-AXDN at Duxford? Wouldn't bet on BA being that careful with their own machine as it is becoming an embarrassing reminder of something missing in the fleet.
And as the man in the know ( cos I'm from Kilmarnock too !) what's the new plan for Alpha Bravo?
G-BBDG wasn't saved to prevent a PR debacle, it was saved because they wanted it gone and someone was willing to take it. And I am immensely grateful and looking forward to going to Brooklands to see it. I had never seen her and always assumed she would be scrapped .
Assuming that the 20 years in the outdoors refers to G-AXDN at Duxford? Wouldn't bet on BA being that careful with their own machine as it is becoming an embarrassing reminder of something missing in the fleet.
And as the man in the know ( cos I'm from Kilmarnock too !) what's the new plan for Alpha Bravo?
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What a shame.....
It's a sad day when it all boils down to money......
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6509667.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6509667.stm
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ON my PPL check ride, the examiner asked: why does a plane fly? I started off with the concept of lift, bernouili and all that jazz.
His answer was: MONEY.
The concorde was something that the UK and France could have been proud of.
The A380...well, size doesn't matter.
I would have paid to fly on the concorde and will avoid the A380...too many people...and IF I was a bad guy, the A380 would be the choicest target of all time.
but I am not a bad guy, so I will just stay away from it.
Money makes the world go 'round...but shouldn't be part of planes.
His answer was: MONEY.
The concorde was something that the UK and France could have been proud of.
The A380...well, size doesn't matter.
I would have paid to fly on the concorde and will avoid the A380...too many people...and IF I was a bad guy, the A380 would be the choicest target of all time.
but I am not a bad guy, so I will just stay away from it.
Money makes the world go 'round...but shouldn't be part of planes.
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I really can't fathom the wisdom of our management sometimes, well all the time! 1.5 mill is not a lot when we talk about ba's annual sums.
still, lets give the competition a chance to get in on our home turf eh?
I'm sure some manager is getting a nice pat on the back and a wedge in the wallet for finding yet another 'cost saving initiative'. twats.
still, lets give the competition a chance to get in on our home turf eh?
I'm sure some manager is getting a nice pat on the back and a wedge in the wallet for finding yet another 'cost saving initiative'. twats.
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That just sums up Uk aviation at the moment!! How long is it going to be before an airline MD says..."I know, lets ground our a/c and save money.."!
Nice one Emirates.....
This country is pathetic....
Nice one Emirates.....
This country is pathetic....
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That witless nerk Walsh is at it again, he'll be stripping the Union Flag off the tails soon in order to save a bit of weight. I fully understand that costs have to be controlled in such a competitive industry but really.....it's so sad to see BA become such a cold organisation 
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£1.5m is only a couple of hours worth of fuel
.£1.5m is only a couple of hours worth of fuel
Paxing All Over The World
Why should BA pay 1.5mil pa in brand awareness that features something they do not have?
This story did the rounds through here when the announcement was made public over six or eight weeks ago.
This story did the rounds through here when the announcement was made public over six or eight weeks ago.
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I thought it was more to do with the move to T5, as in most BA customers won't be driving past that site and the majority of BA business will be through T5, so they will be concentrating their advertising there. just a thought.
