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Sorry "A300Man", but you are talking a load of B******s.
Some of us that work at Monarch have the latest info on what is going to happen to the old girl.
In late January it is going into the hangar at Luton for a "4C" check only to appear around March and go back into service.
Around October/November it will finish flying with Monarch and be returned back to the leasing company which has owned it for the last few years.
It will be converted into a freighter after it leaves Monarch, it might end up parked up in the desert for a short time, until it's booked time slot at where ever the conversion is due to take place .
Some of us that work at Monarch have the latest info on what is going to happen to the old girl.
In late January it is going into the hangar at Luton for a "4C" check only to appear around March and go back into service.
Around October/November it will finish flying with Monarch and be returned back to the leasing company which has owned it for the last few years.
It will be converted into a freighter after it leaves Monarch, it might end up parked up in the desert for a short time, until it's booked time slot at where ever the conversion is due to take place .
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Gentlemen,
No need to be so harsh, if you don't mind. I was merely quoting from another "reputable" website and, if I got it wrong, I apologise sincerely. No mislead was intended. I literally quoted line for line.
It appears the intent and sincerity of my original post (i.e. to pay homage to a formidable pioneering aircraft, G-MONB) has all but been lost, due to the fact that some of you have decided to start throwing stones.
Not a load of "B******s", but a genuine mistake!!
Anyway, I still take my hat off to G-MONB.
No need to be so harsh, if you don't mind. I was merely quoting from another "reputable" website and, if I got it wrong, I apologise sincerely. No mislead was intended. I literally quoted line for line.
It appears the intent and sincerity of my original post (i.e. to pay homage to a formidable pioneering aircraft, G-MONB) has all but been lost, due to the fact that some of you have decided to start throwing stones.
Not a load of "B******s", but a genuine mistake!!
Anyway, I still take my hat off to G-MONB.
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A300 Man,
I agree with you that it is a shame that some on here insist on putting others down. It is hoped that they do not mean to do so. Mr @ Spotty M you are remarkably well informed (as always, I note), but please do not belittle those who aren't.
I was a 'Liney' at LTN working on Monarch 720 when NB landed at 07:57. It had flown direct from Boeing. When one saw that very sleek, modern aircraft alongside the 720 you realised that we had moved into the new age and for once, Monarch was up there with the leading the UK Charter Airlines. We had seen Britannia with the 737 and Court Line with the the Tristar. Now it was our turn.
The move to take the B757 was a major contributor to Monarch's survival in a very competitive market and a very shrewd one made when we still had Bristol Britannias!. We were also in the leading pack regarding EROPS. Overcoming the 'if it ain't got four engines...' school of thought was hard work, but look at the situation now, few even bat an eyelid when they board a two engined aicraft for a long flight (few know what EROPS is).
Well done Boeing for producing such a superb aircraft and well done Monarch for its usual understated involvement in operating G-MONB so successfully for so long.
Temps
I agree with you that it is a shame that some on here insist on putting others down. It is hoped that they do not mean to do so. Mr @ Spotty M you are remarkably well informed (as always, I note), but please do not belittle those who aren't.
I was a 'Liney' at LTN working on Monarch 720 when NB landed at 07:57. It had flown direct from Boeing. When one saw that very sleek, modern aircraft alongside the 720 you realised that we had moved into the new age and for once, Monarch was up there with the leading the UK Charter Airlines. We had seen Britannia with the 737 and Court Line with the the Tristar. Now it was our turn.
The move to take the B757 was a major contributor to Monarch's survival in a very competitive market and a very shrewd one made when we still had Bristol Britannias!. We were also in the leading pack regarding EROPS. Overcoming the 'if it ain't got four engines...' school of thought was hard work, but look at the situation now, few even bat an eyelid when they board a two engined aicraft for a long flight (few know what EROPS is).
Well done Boeing for producing such a superb aircraft and well done Monarch for its usual understated involvement in operating G-MONB so successfully for so long.
Temps
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B757 G-BKRM status
GBKRM was Europe's first 757, arriving at the same time in early 83. I wonder where it is now.
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Sorry "A300Man" l did not mean to offend, if you had pointed out that you had read what you had posted, l would not have bit your head off.
I would have pointed out that you were ill informed, but it came over as you were informing us.
Once again sorry, you will have to wait for the parting out of some of Monarch's B757s with "NC & ND" due to be the first in the not to distant future.
Sorry "Liffy 1M" looks if your info is incorrect, checked two different sources and this is what l have found for delivery dates, these may be date left Boeing or into UK.
G-BIKB was the first in Europe on 25/01/83, followed by "KC" on the 31/01/83, then "KD" on 10/03/83, then good old "NB" on 22/03/83, then "KA" 28/03/83 and into 6th place what would have been "KE" but became G-BKRM on 30/03/83.
I would have pointed out that you were ill informed, but it came over as you were informing us.
Once again sorry, you will have to wait for the parting out of some of Monarch's B757s with "NC & ND" due to be the first in the not to distant future.
Sorry "Liffy 1M" looks if your info is incorrect, checked two different sources and this is what l have found for delivery dates, these may be date left Boeing or into UK.
G-BIKB was the first in Europe on 25/01/83, followed by "KC" on the 31/01/83, then "KD" on 10/03/83, then good old "NB" on 22/03/83, then "KA" 28/03/83 and into 6th place what would have been "KE" but became G-BKRM on 30/03/83.
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No worries, Mr. @. Thanks for your explanation.
I believe you are indeed correct about the BA machine G-BIKB being the first 757 in Europe (proudly wearing the "British" titles, and named Dover Castle, was it?).
My first outing on a BA 757 was G-BIKK. Will never forget how it soared like a rocket when compared to the 732, with which I had had more experience up until then.
I love the 757.
I believe you are indeed correct about the BA machine G-BIKB being the first 757 in Europe (proudly wearing the "British" titles, and named Dover Castle, was it?).
My first outing on a BA 757 was G-BIKK. Will never forget how it soared like a rocket when compared to the 732, with which I had had more experience up until then.
I love the 757.
I flew GBKRM at Moses Lake on the 31st March 1983 (1179), the first time it had been flown by Air Europe pilots. We returned to UK in it on the 6th of April.
GBIKF was operated by AE during the 1983 summer season.
GBIKF was operated by AE during the 1983 summer season.
Sorry "Liffy 1M" looks if your info is incorrect, checked two different sources and this is what l have found for delivery dates, these may be date left Boeing or into UK.
G-BIKB was the first in Europe on 25/01/83, followed by "KC" on the 31/01/83, then "KD" on 10/03/83, then good old "NB" on 22/03/83, then "KA" 28/03/83 and into 6th place what would have been "KE" but became G-BKRM on 30/03/83.
G-BIKB was the first in Europe on 25/01/83, followed by "KC" on the 31/01/83, then "KD" on 10/03/83, then good old "NB" on 22/03/83, then "KA" 28/03/83 and into 6th place what would have been "KE" but became G-BKRM on 30/03/83.
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G-bika/g-monb
Hello
I have fond memories of both KA and NB from my days plane spotting around the Midlands in the early 80s.
My first visit to Heathrow was early in April 1983. By public transport it was a long (and expensive journey) and I remember rushing up and onto the Queen's Building roof to be amazed at the large numbers of exotic aircraft in front of me, There were two that immediately caught my eye as they queued for take off - an Aeroflot IL-62 and then a rather strangely shaped BA machine, G-BIKA, which took off after the Ilyushin. I had only just developed my interest in aircraft then, and this machine intruiged me - I didn't see it again, although I was at the airport all day (I thought when the 757 was first introduced it was used on the domestic routes), and there were no other similar aircraft present.
About a month later, one Sunday morning I visited East Midlands, my usual haunt. Bad weather in the South East meant that as well as Monarch 1-11 G-AWWZ the apron was also graced by G-MONB. Although it wasn't as much graced by NB as dominated by it, as it was much bigger than anything else that was around, and it gave me my first opportunity to appreciate the what I thought were very futuristic looks of the 757.
Both the 1-11 and the 757 later positioned back to Luton. I will never forget how the NB seemed to use hardly any runway at all and it was virtually silent compared to WZ.
It was a good visit that day because, as well as the two Monarchs, a BA 1-11 rolled in on a charter flight (back then a Birmingham based 1-11 was used on charters out of East Midlands during the weekend), while Orion also sent 737-300 G-BLKB which was the first -300 I saw and which, later that summer, was to become the first aircraft I ever flew on.
Whenever I see a Monarch 757 I now hope it is NB, and it always reminds me of those heady days back at East Midlands.
I have fond memories of both KA and NB from my days plane spotting around the Midlands in the early 80s.
My first visit to Heathrow was early in April 1983. By public transport it was a long (and expensive journey) and I remember rushing up and onto the Queen's Building roof to be amazed at the large numbers of exotic aircraft in front of me, There were two that immediately caught my eye as they queued for take off - an Aeroflot IL-62 and then a rather strangely shaped BA machine, G-BIKA, which took off after the Ilyushin. I had only just developed my interest in aircraft then, and this machine intruiged me - I didn't see it again, although I was at the airport all day (I thought when the 757 was first introduced it was used on the domestic routes), and there were no other similar aircraft present.
About a month later, one Sunday morning I visited East Midlands, my usual haunt. Bad weather in the South East meant that as well as Monarch 1-11 G-AWWZ the apron was also graced by G-MONB. Although it wasn't as much graced by NB as dominated by it, as it was much bigger than anything else that was around, and it gave me my first opportunity to appreciate the what I thought were very futuristic looks of the 757.
Both the 1-11 and the 757 later positioned back to Luton. I will never forget how the NB seemed to use hardly any runway at all and it was virtually silent compared to WZ.
It was a good visit that day because, as well as the two Monarchs, a BA 1-11 rolled in on a charter flight (back then a Birmingham based 1-11 was used on charters out of East Midlands during the weekend), while Orion also sent 737-300 G-BLKB which was the first -300 I saw and which, later that summer, was to become the first aircraft I ever flew on.
Whenever I see a Monarch 757 I now hope it is NB, and it always reminds me of those heady days back at East Midlands.
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Monarch G-MONB
I think you will find that it landed at Monarch’s headquarters at Luton in March 1984 with Operations Director Don McAngus at the helm. I know because I was there!
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I would just like to add a few corrections to some of the statements ref NB, the aircraft was delivered on the 23rd March 1983 to luton landing at 07.57 as stated by Mr Tempsford. I like everyone else in the company were standing outside of the hangar that morning waiting anxiously for the aircraft to arrive, and what a magnificent site it was. Of course the most exciting part of the day was trying to see if it would fit in hangar 7/8, although technically they measured it should fit it wasn't till we tried it that we could see how tight it was and still is. Also reference the first ETOPS aircraft, in fact out of the 6 757 aircraft that Monarch converted to ER config, NJ,NK,KE,JB & NE. NB was not the first choice, G-DRJC was the logical choice but the owner ILFC did not want it altered, therefore as the company had already commited to a very heavy Orlando programme and needed six aircraft NB reluctantly became the next aircraft to be converted. The reason the company did not want to convert NB to ETOPS standard was due to the fact that being such an earlier build aircraft, the amount of modifications involved including major changes to the equipement cooling system was far more extensive than later build aircraft. However the task was completed and it has been a far better aircraft compared to NC (my initials) & ND. Although i do not work for Monarch anymore, i spent a very happy and memorable 16 years working and flying many times on NB and all the others in the fleet and it will be a sad day when those old ones are laid to rest. They certainly made me and the company a lot of money.
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I have always thought that the 757 is a rather strange looking plane, but it is undoubtedly a very good aeroplane.
I think G-MONB has a special status among British registered 75's. It's old & was the first of a type that really transformed the reputation of the holiday charter airlines.
Because of this I was moved to take picture of MB on a rescent visit to Man. I now have two pics of MB the first was taken in 1984.
I think G-MONB has a special status among British registered 75's. It's old & was the first of a type that really transformed the reputation of the holiday charter airlines.
Because of this I was moved to take picture of MB on a rescent visit to Man. I now have two pics of MB the first was taken in 1984.
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Yes it will be a very sad day when MONB retires from MON.
I grew up watching MONB.
Still, I would be happy to think that she will still be flying, Even if not in the UK, Rather than being doomed to dust.
I wouldn't have thought she had a large amount of Airlife left??
I wonder how many PMI's she has done in 24 years??
Ill tell you what, When she does however get doomed to dust, I wouldn't mind a piece of her for my collection.
I grew up watching MONB.
Still, I would be happy to think that she will still be flying, Even if not in the UK, Rather than being doomed to dust.
I wouldn't have thought she had a large amount of Airlife left??
I wonder how many PMI's she has done in 24 years??
Ill tell you what, When she does however get doomed to dust, I wouldn't mind a piece of her for my collection.
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First A330 for Air Berlin
LTU and Air Berlin have merged in a new company. Today the first A330 in a new c/s arrived at DUS. Former LTU a/c is still wearing his previous registration.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1323911&size=L
Looks good!
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1323911&size=L
Looks good!