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Old 28th October 2006 | 13:06
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Private widebodies

How popular are widebody private jets?

Boeing boasts about having sold a number of 747-800 and 787 business jets. Airbus recently opened a section on their website about widebody private jets.

And see Gulfstream:
Industry sources say the company is working on a widebody with a 13,300km (7,200nm) range, compared with the G550's 12,500km at Mach 0.8.
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www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/10/24/Navigation/177/210156/Gulfstream+rumoured+to+be+set+to+add+'Fat+5'+larger%2c+longe r-range+G550+variant+to.html

Sure - there are a lot of interior options which just do not fit into the 12 foot cabin width of 737 or 320.

What kind of cross-section could Gulfstream be looking into? And what are the other longhaul jet manufacturers up to (Bombardier, Dassault...)?
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Old 28th October 2006 | 16:02
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I suppose the 747sp has been the ultimate in wide body private jets .... I've seen the one below from time to time ......

What a surprise to see this private 747. The owner left Zurich with 6 very expensive cars
How would they load six cars and where would they be stored on board, I wonder?

http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file/1080796/M/
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Old 28th October 2006 | 16:49
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A 747-400 private jet is operated by the Dubai Air Wing. It visited NCL recently
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Old 28th October 2006 | 16:54
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VP BAT shown in the photo seems to spend most of it's time at EGHH. I was told that the Far East owner's son goes to Bournemouth College (sorry, University). It came right over the house recently on approach to 08 (well north of the centre line). Nice to see, and hear.
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Old 28th October 2006 | 16:56
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I saw a private 777 in malaga this summer-but could not see the registration.I think there was a private 340 around as well
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Old 28th October 2006 | 17:11
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Originally Posted by cornwallis
I saw a private 777 in malaga this summer-but could not see the registration.I think there was a private 340 around as well

Usually owned by Middle-east sheikhs or oil magnates.

The Middle-Eastern royal families often own A340s/777s/L-1011s/747s and have them as part of their private fleet, even if they are in the colour scheme of the National Airline. (Kuwait,Saudi, Qatar etc etc)

There are also others with 767s (Chelski's owner of course) and the like.
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Old 28th October 2006 | 17:39
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If you want to do some serious private widebodied spotting go to Stansted, they have lots that go in over the Northside of the Airport.
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Old 28th October 2006 | 19:17
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This is a private 777 that I've seen around
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Old 28th October 2006 | 20:50
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I don't think it was that one.It did not have a white fuselage
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Old 28th October 2006 | 21:40
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Originally Posted by cornwallis
I don't think it was that one.It did not have a white fuselage
Are you sure
www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5837340
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Old 28th October 2006 | 22:12
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it is apparently leased to someone. The FAA N-number registry shows it belongs to the Wells Fargo Bank in Salt Lake City. Manufactured in 1998 it is a 777-24Q.
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Old 29th October 2006 | 03:30
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it is apparently leased to someone.
Not really, the owners are based in Saudi Arabia, so in order to maintain the "N" registration. they presumably set up a USA based trust, hence the Wells Fargo bank address.

AFAIK, there are 2 VIP B777s in complete configuration and 1 in a semi VIP configuration, all based in Saudi.

Hobie, the B747SP is an awesome machine, but surely you must admit that a VIP B747-400 is much cooler!!!!

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Old 29th October 2006 | 07:05
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Hobie, the B747SP is an awesome machine, but surely you must admit that a VIP B747-400 is much cooler!!!!
I do agree .....
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Old 29th October 2006 | 09:12
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Originally Posted by mutt
Not really, the owners are based in Saudi Arabia, so in order to maintain the "N" registration. they presumably set up a USA based trust, hence the Wells Fargo bank address.
AFAIK, there are 2 VIP B777s in complete configuration and 1 in a semi VIP configuration, all based in Saudi.
Hobie, the B747SP is an awesome machine, but surely you must admit that a VIP B747-400 is much cooler!!!!
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And I'm guessing that these Saudi Operators are the Undisclosed customers to have ordered one 787-8, three 787-9 and three 747-8 VIP airplanes. Now that is cool.
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Old 29th October 2006 | 16:06
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Saudi Royal flight has two (2) L-1011-500's outfitted with VIP interiors. King Hussan of Jordian also had an L-1011-500, it is now owned by someone called Al Anwa Trading?
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Old 29th October 2006 | 16:25
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And don't forget Mr. Abramovichs' very own 767 ....

http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/search/phot...gsearch=P4-MES

Although I don't much care for the colour myself ... wonder if they have one in blue ...

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Old 29th October 2006 | 18:44
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VP BAT shown in the photo seems to spend most of it's time at EGHH. I was told that the Far East owner's son goes to Bournemouth College (sorry, University).
I have always wondered who operated this aircraft as I have frequently seen it parked at Hurn. The airframe history for VP-BAT can be found here: http://www.747sp.com/History.asp?21648 . However it looks like it has recently been purchased by an Australian airline.

Talking of privetly/government owned widebodies, does anybody know why the Embasy of Saudi Arabia's A340-300 is a regular to Brize Norton?

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Old 30th October 2006 | 18:00
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At Stansted today Private B767 VP-BKS and Private B777 VP-BRH and a new Private N reg B767 will try and get a look over later.
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