London-Tokyo Route???
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To look on a map see here http://www.planningchart.de Although there is 1 route not covered that runs up the norwegian coast and then just north of Novary Zemlya (the big island north of Siberia) joining the standard routes west of kharbarovsk. Its more usual on the return though.
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This should give you some idea -
http://gc.kls2.com/
Just type LHR-NRT into the 'Paths' box and Bob's your uncle
http://gc.kls2.com/
Just type LHR-NRT into the 'Paths' box and Bob's your uncle
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Thanks for the link.
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FWIW "my" Company's routes all start out Eastwards from LHR, but differ after passing roughly overhead Malmo, where they either
(a) pretty much follow the great circle via Murmansk, out over the Arctic up to about 80 North and then head back down to Khaborovsk in Eastern Russia or
(b) pass overhead St Petersburg, then Eastwards staying overland toward Mirny and then again over Khabarovsk.
after Khabarovsk it's then pretty much due South toward Ydinka on the Coast, due South across the Sea of Japan to Nigata and on to Tokyo.
I see the ideal Great circle would have us overflying China, rather than going via Khaborovsk - maybe politics or nav charges account for us not doing that.
J52/41
FWIW "my" Company's routes all start out Eastwards from LHR, but differ after passing roughly overhead Malmo, where they either
(a) pretty much follow the great circle via Murmansk, out over the Arctic up to about 80 North and then head back down to Khaborovsk in Eastern Russia or
(b) pass overhead St Petersburg, then Eastwards staying overland toward Mirny and then again over Khabarovsk.
after Khabarovsk it's then pretty much due South toward Ydinka on the Coast, due South across the Sea of Japan to Nigata and on to Tokyo.
I see the ideal Great circle would have us overflying China, rather than going via Khaborovsk - maybe politics or nav charges account for us not doing that.
I regularly travel to St Petersburg, Russia, and in the middle of the day local time a lot of this traffic, maybe a dozen or more per day, tends to come westbound overhead the city (eastbounds pass at night there). In the clear northern air in summer the 747 contrails seem particularly vivid and long-lasting. There's no Russian traffic on such a route (indeed, you never see Russian aircraft over the city, likewise Moscow) and some discussion here on PPRuNe a while back showed me it was Japanese/Korean/Chinese traffic to Europe.
Some days there is nothing, I guess it just depends on the winds aloft which of the tracks is most favourable.
Normal route from St Pete to London is direct Copenhagen direct Clacton.
Some days there is nothing, I guess it just depends on the winds aloft which of the tracks is most favourable.
Normal route from St Pete to London is direct Copenhagen direct Clacton.