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Old 30th Jan 2006, 10:24
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Vaso Airlines Nightmare

10 Jan 2006

Screaming be'jesus! Who are these monkeys? Has the EU banned them too?

Sorry if there is a thread one this 'event' already!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=995911
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 10:28
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Is it me or are those thrust reversers sticking out from the engines? i.e. Could this be a doctored photo?


(N.B. I am a humble radar atco and therefore ready for flak if incorrect!!!)
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Ah ! what is a few tons of extra freight among friends ? Everything is so expensive in Russia.
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There's a small thread on JB about this pic.
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I don't know the photograher personally, but he seems to have a reputation for taking great photos. So I would doubt it is doctored.
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 11:37
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If they really were reversers you'd have read about the accident by now!
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Had to look at a few other photos to confirm the fact, and don't ask me the technical words, but the IL-86's thrust reversers are kind of hidden behind vents/shrouds.

Have seen a very similar photo taken of the same type departing some eastern airfield with an equally long t/o roll.
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Don't worry, folks.

Using the logic from "Close Encounter over London", it was thousands of feet away from the end of the runway, and it's all down to the fore-shortening effect of a long telephoto lens!!
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Exclamation Photo Shop At Work

There's another problem with this photo: The positions of the flaps suggest a landing configuration....
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 13:56
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Perhaps they were trying to avoid a tail scrape!
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I´m a big fan of Sam Chui´s photo´s on airliner.net and I also doubt that this shot has been doctored.
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p.s. If you do a search on the registration you will find more pics of the same aircraft using a lot of runway on take off in BCN.

Could it be the limited TO performance of the Il 86, or the limited knowledge of Mass & Balance of the crews?
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 14:23
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So that's where the Emirates A340 crew are working now!
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 14:26
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Highly unlikely to be doctored - Sam Chui is highly respected and takes some superb photographs.
As for the IL86, have a look at this and see the same aircraft taking off a few years ago. Seems like a load of flap selected...
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 14:41
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Originally Posted by BALIX
Highly unlikely to be doctored - Sam Chui is highly respected and takes some superb photographs.
You obviously weren't aware of the doctored pics incident that saw him banned from uploading photos to a certain well known photo site for a short period then...
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 16:31
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Have a look on airliners.net for other Phuket photos and there is a very similar one of an IL96 doing the same thing at the other end of the runway.
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 16:40
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Interesting take off techniques!
I wonder what it would look like if they lose one engine after V1...
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?i...RFP&photo_nr=4

p.s. BALIX, how did you manage to post that link written in text? There used to be a button for that, but I can´t find it anymore.
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Old 30th Jan 2006, 16:50
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The aircraft has 4 engines AND winglets, I don't know what they're messing about at
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Funny how that photo (ll-96) just happened to be taken by the same photographer at the same airport as the LL-86 in the first post?
And how come he hasen't yet managed to photograph the initial climb out of any of these
thrilling take-offs
, which would have been equally interesting?
Me thinks Mr Chui likes playing with photoshop or somesuch, and has a fondness for doctoring photos which show in his own words a
thrilling take-off
as the a/c
used the whole runway
knowing that neither the operators/ pilots of these russian a/c are lightly to appear either here or on airliners.net to set the record straight....
Of course there are plenty of 'experts' here to comment on how authentic these photos are, just as the DHL A300 'v' 777 mid-air shocker over london was recorded by an honest and genuine press photographer......
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