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737-200 banked 87 deg?

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Old 9th Nov 2005, 00:14
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misunderstanding ,aircraft was 80 degrees off runway centreline due bad weather
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 09:13
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I wouldn't expect ENAC to get involved,they have the same level of interest in regulating as the IAA ie none
you have worked for Blue Banana, so you had the chance to understand quite a bit of the Italian civil aviation, but in this case you are too a certain extent wrong.

If you are right saying that the level of interest of ENAC is nil, you are wrong in saying that ENAC would have not been involved. Having left the Bel Paese, it might be that you have forgot that ENAC is still actually and to a great extent spelled AZ or Alitalia if you prefer, and that also Blue Banana has "very good" or say "preeferential" relationship with them. So, they would have not missed the opportunity at all!

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Old 9th Nov 2005, 10:05
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Methinks you are right,and any opportunity to "help" AZ would surely not be missed.Oh well,if it did happen ,and they didn't know about it, they certainly will now! duh. . .
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How would the exact value of ***87 *** degrees had become known?
For sure not from observation in the passenger cabin.
Reading out the FDR is probably the only way.
Or a report by someone in the cockpit being cool, observing and writing down the exact number.

If you ask me - hoax
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 11:01
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fr 800s fitted with operational flight data monitoring system.
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 11:43
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I'd pay more attention to what bentover said
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 12:37
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I CAN ASSURE EVERYBODY ON THIS THREAD FROM VERY RELIABLE SOURCES THAT THE 87 DEGREE BANK ANGLE DID NOT HAPPEN TO A RYANAIR ACFT.
(GREAT RUMOUR WHILE IT LASTED!!!!!!!!!)
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 12:42
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I'd pay more attention to my "bank angle BANK ANGLE" although I'm more usually concerned by my bank-balance;From where& how I first heard of this I think there will turn out to be something a lot more scary than attempted approach 80° off-set, although that in itself would be more than scary enough ta very much if the wx wasn't so hot.
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 12:42
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THAT THE 87 DEGREE BANK ANGLE DID NOT HAPPEN TO A RYANAIR ACFT.
To whom else?
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 13:49
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Question

Captplaystation,

Is the "BANKANGLE" EGPWS mode triggered no matter what RadAlt you are at? S'far as my memory serves me (i.e. no FCOM at hand), you need to be below a certain RadAlt for it to trigger...

Brgds,
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 13:57
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On our a/c - not a 737, "Bank Angle" shouts at any Rad Alt greater than 30 feet. At 30' the trigger is 10deg AoB going upto 40deg AOB at >150'
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 14:08
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No manual to hand (yes I know ,I know, its avail if I click on to crew-doc) but last time I heard it was in turbulence at around FL100 ,and they sure don't inhibit it at the alts we are talking about here,if this story is true maybe it saved the day.
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 14:35
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Why should we believe your reliable sources over and above other reliable sources?

You appear to hold the minority view here.
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Old 9th Nov 2005, 20:28
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ark has a special interest in this thread though, don't you?
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Old 10th Nov 2005, 10:23
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oooooh Farrell - do tell!
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Old 10th Nov 2005, 19:38
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I was in the jumpseat on this flight and snapped the following shot....

http://tinyurl.com/d8ol7
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Old 10th Nov 2005, 21:06
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Cool

You seem to all forget that if this happened , the A/C was in the clouds so no pax would have noticed the angle of bank, just as the crew who probably did not do that on purpose, so was a bit slow to recognise the bank departure despite all the alarms
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Old 10th Nov 2005, 22:36
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Aircraft got to 38 degrees in very heavy turbulance. Report out soon.Lot of other factors involved too.
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Old 11th Nov 2005, 11:53
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Well let's see - 87deg is a pretty exact figure - close to 90 deg at the last count.

Yet someone had the time to note it. Who?

Was it the flight AIDS recorder? If so, who let the confidential information out?

Sounds all pretty fishy to me. (not a cue for ditching jokes...)
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Old 11th Nov 2005, 12:02
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ditching jokes...

Reminds me of the cabin announcement "in the unlikely event of landing on water . . ."

Very unlikely - you don't land on water, you crash on it Hmmm
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