A380 - combined threads
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From: France
You don't need to be a pilot to bull!!!!!!
Danny,
You may be hosting (and giving out invitations to) this party but...
"In the meantime, new airliners undergoing testing......all have their own forums on here and this isn't one of them!"
Guess the whole thread should be moved to another forum as last time I checked, the A380 was "a new airliner undergoing testing"
So far this thread still contains no facts re A380 noise and no amount of time consuming moderation will change that
If talk of A380 noise needs to continue, then you might as well invite the guy who fixes the roofs on the portacabins on the St Martin site of Airbus France - as he will be uniquely qualified to give the most accurate "figures" which will certainly not be measured in any known scientific units
My alternative proposal - get the A380 to fly into (and then leave) BRU after a 747 and then we all check out the 'Wake Up Craainem' web site for a fair comparison
http://www.wakeupkraainem.be/sonometres/
Anyone know of a similar site for FRA so we can check it out and you can all stop arguing without any facts?
You may be hosting (and giving out invitations to) this party but...
"In the meantime, new airliners undergoing testing......all have their own forums on here and this isn't one of them!"
Guess the whole thread should be moved to another forum as last time I checked, the A380 was "a new airliner undergoing testing"
So far this thread still contains no facts re A380 noise and no amount of time consuming moderation will change that
If talk of A380 noise needs to continue, then you might as well invite the guy who fixes the roofs on the portacabins on the St Martin site of Airbus France - as he will be uniquely qualified to give the most accurate "figures" which will certainly not be measured in any known scientific units
My alternative proposal - get the A380 to fly into (and then leave) BRU after a 747 and then we all check out the 'Wake Up Craainem' web site for a fair comparison
http://www.wakeupkraainem.be/sonometres/
Anyone know of a similar site for FRA so we can check it out and you can all stop arguing without any facts?
Sims Fly Virtually
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From: Used to be 3rd Sand Dune from the Left - But now I'm somewhere else somewhere else.
Noisy Aircraft
As a long-not-aviator, but a quite old member of this forum, I hope Danny will forgive me (if not, I'm banned 
)
Maybe he had a bad flight or had a Boing (or Bus - not sure which he flies) bump into him this morning - but it's his site and he has more entitlement to comment that the rest of us - AND to move to Spotters Corner!!
Whichever camp you belong to, the 380 is a heck of a piece of engineering. The Conc made a lot of noise, but we got usedto it (some even loved it - and I used to live on the A4,right beside LHR right runway!)
Have any of the detrators ever stood behind a 727 (pre-"hush-kit" taxiing??
- any modern high-bypass fan-jet has to be quieter than that (similar story with BAC 1-11 and Trident, but maybe not quite so much)
Evac? - well, it has to prove itself and we'll have to wait and see, but I doubt if 'Bus would have gone this far and spent as much money if they weren't sure it would qualify!
Personally, I'm quite looking forward to the first time I get to fly from RUH or BAH to LHR on this remarkable aircraft. Surely we heard all these arguments decades ago when the 747 first debued?
And if the DeamLiner gets on the route, I'll be very interested in that too
)Maybe he had a bad flight or had a Boing (or Bus - not sure which he flies) bump into him this morning - but it's his site and he has more entitlement to comment that the rest of us - AND to move to Spotters Corner!!
Whichever camp you belong to, the 380 is a heck of a piece of engineering. The Conc made a lot of noise, but we got usedto it (some even loved it - and I used to live on the A4,right beside LHR right runway!)
Have any of the detrators ever stood behind a 727 (pre-"hush-kit" taxiing??
- any modern high-bypass fan-jet has to be quieter than that (similar story with BAC 1-11 and Trident, but maybe not quite so much)Evac? - well, it has to prove itself and we'll have to wait and see, but I doubt if 'Bus would have gone this far and spent as much money if they weren't sure it would qualify!
Personally, I'm quite looking forward to the first time I get to fly from RUH or BAH to LHR on this remarkable aircraft. Surely we heard all these arguments decades ago when the 747 first debued?
And if the DeamLiner gets on the route, I'll be very interested in that too
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From: Singapore
A380 Arrival at WSSL (Photos)
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From: Oztrailia
Being a chap employed as a "Professional" in this wonderful business we call Aviation I feel very qualified to give my 2 cents worth...................here goes again.
Airbus build cheap plastic throw away crap. Always have and always will.
If it's not Boeing................
Get the picture?
chow.
Airbus build cheap plastic throw away crap. Always have and always will.
If it's not Boeing................
Get the picture?
chow.
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Hello 747FOCAL,
with surprise I got to read your comments in the forum. A lot of times I can´t imagine you are a prof. pilot, or something horrible must happened to you in the past.
But you can be proud, because I took my nickname after your so well known name here.
It seems to me, you are the second best known person herein the forum after 411A.
To give you some insight from Frankfurt/Germany. The people you are referring to in your post would like to stop airtraffic completely in Frankfurt Rhein/Main and they are also a privately organised group.
Just for your information and back to the facts:
The ILS intercept was out of 3000´ feet, fully established, instead out of the standard 4000´ and that was one of the points, where they had their first noise monitoring point.
Second, we really got a laugh out of the statement from the generated tornados and the rooftops in danger in the approach path from RWY 07 ( a little in front of the marker ).
"Such turbulence he has “never experienced". If the plane would have flown very low over Raunheim, “the roofs would have blown off".
But just a little info about that A380.
Lufthansa will phase out the 747 now, since they need so much fuel.
The A340-600 is saving 25tons compared to the 747-400 in fuel on each leg to Buenos Aires. (same payload, wind etc.. )
The A380 is at least 15% more efficient in any sector then the A340-600.
But they are thinking at Lufthansa about buying a 787, when the aircraft will perform as promised and that also in time.
hope that makes you happy...
with surprise I got to read your comments in the forum. A lot of times I can´t imagine you are a prof. pilot, or something horrible must happened to you in the past.
But you can be proud, because I took my nickname after your so well known name here.
It seems to me, you are the second best known person herein the forum after 411A.
To give you some insight from Frankfurt/Germany. The people you are referring to in your post would like to stop airtraffic completely in Frankfurt Rhein/Main and they are also a privately organised group.
Just for your information and back to the facts:
The ILS intercept was out of 3000´ feet, fully established, instead out of the standard 4000´ and that was one of the points, where they had their first noise monitoring point.
Second, we really got a laugh out of the statement from the generated tornados and the rooftops in danger in the approach path from RWY 07 ( a little in front of the marker ).
"Such turbulence he has “never experienced". If the plane would have flown very low over Raunheim, “the roofs would have blown off".
But just a little info about that A380.
Lufthansa will phase out the 747 now, since they need so much fuel.
The A340-600 is saving 25tons compared to the 747-400 in fuel on each leg to Buenos Aires. (same payload, wind etc.. )
The A380 is at least 15% more efficient in any sector then the A340-600.
But they are thinking at Lufthansa about buying a 787, when the aircraft will perform as promised and that also in time.
hope that makes you happy...
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From: Toronto, Canada (formerly EICK)
alert5 probably made a typo while hoping to pull people to his blog as usual. At least he isn't just linking to someone else's site this time - although there is no attribution on the photos...
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From: Melbourne
A380 at Melbourne
Any fellow pilots going to watch the A380 land this Monday at Melbourne airport?
I will be there with a smile on my face.
One day,, just one day ill be off the 320 and onto this massive 380.
I will be there with a smile on my face.
One day,, just one day ill be off the 320 and onto this massive 380.
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From: Asia
There was plethora of old kit around the place at Changi this morning...
Travolta's V-Jet Qantas 707 which I presume is a trailing spouse for the A380 Tour Downunder.
Aso a Pakistan 707 on the hardstand around Bay 40, plus the usual KC135 parked over the far end of the strip.
Travolta's V-Jet Qantas 707 which I presume is a trailing spouse for the A380 Tour Downunder.
Aso a Pakistan 707 on the hardstand around Bay 40, plus the usual KC135 parked over the far end of the strip.
Sims Fly Virtually
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From: Used to be 3rd Sand Dune from the Left - But now I'm somewhere else somewhere else.
Any fellow pilots going to watch the A380 land
Bantios, Hope you get your wish (ah, if I was a few years younger . . . AND had a few more \"A-Levels\")
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From: Melbourne Australia
A380 @ YMML
http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/A380-YML-141105
Thanks a ton to John Eacott for the ride! Hopefully this is the right forum for these!
More here: http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/A380-YML-141105
Thanks a ton to John Eacott for the ride! Hopefully this is the right forum for these!
More here: http://trapdoor.darb.net/gallery/A380-YML-141105