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Old 30th Sep 2005, 20:25
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Skiathos skidmarks !

Anyone who has landed on runway 02 at JSI recently will see a set of skidmarks that end at right angles to the runway very close to the end of the runway and the subsequent drop down to the beach !

Enquiries revealed that a Scandinavian MD80 left them - does anyone know any more ?
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That Beach!! Ah bliss... Spent a day there this summer.... Good little airport at JSI….
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There is something similar at LBA.
In this case I assume landing skid marks close to 32 threshold before the piano keys at about 30deg to the runway and starting on or before the runway edge marker lights.
Always curious to know what happened.
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Enquiries revealed that a Scandinavian MD80 left them - does anyone know any more ?
Yeah I've heard that SAS has got all birds flying, and incidentially I've also noticed the utter lack of any reports including any SAS aircraft having a bit of a moment anywhere. Now you may call me an overtly simplicstic kind of guy, but perhaps the case is that aviation is not always a cut and dry kind of science, and that sometimes things don't go entirely as the plan may call for, whilst not getting out of hand. In other words, shyte happens without it constituting an emergency. It's called life ...

Only yesterday I was delayed out of Washington flying on SK926 IAD-CPH. The carriage (A330-300) had been subjected to a "hard landing" and the subseaquent inspection. News worthy? Hardly. Left a skid mark on the runway? Possibly. Worthy of a thread by a supposedly professional on this here forum? Don't think so!
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The skid marks at LBA are probably from this incident

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/w...re/4559315.stm
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I did not say an SAS MD80 - I said a Scandinavian MD80. There is a differance.

If you are one of the pilots who is checked out to fly into Skiathos then you will know why I ask the question. You are obviously not. I am well aware the things happen and I am also well aware what constitutes an emergency. The skid marks and eyewitness reports indicate that it was a very close thing to a complete aircraft loss - something went wrong and what exactly should be disseminated. Its called Safety...
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Worthy of a thread by a supposedly professional on this here forum? Don't think so!
You're probably correct but cut the OP a little slack for a request for information in R&N?

If the skid marks really are at 90 degrees to normal track and at the northern end of the runway (my presumption) then I'd guess the excursion would have been of considerable interest to both the passengers and crew!

I wouldn't like to estimate the drop to the sea but it always looked pretty dramatic from my perspective.

Didn't someone post some aerial photos here of Skiathos ages back?


Disclaimer: feel free to ignore or ridicule my comments, I'm only SLF with enough of an interest to have quietly observed here for several years.
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I believe the incident in question was an Icelandic MD83 flying for a now defunct British charter airline from EMA.
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And I bet there were other skidmarks relating to this incident!
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there were.......i was on it!
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skylordschum,
please choose your words with more care. When you write "a Scandinavian MD80" I think you mean an MD80 flown by SAS.
SAS is Scandinavian or more correctly Scandinavian Airlines System. As far as I know, SAS goes by the name Scandinavian in everyday english.
You should have realised that this would lead to people thinking you meant an SAS MD80.
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Very interesting ! I to would like to know what happend I took a good look the other day when turning the aircraft around and the marks seem to indicate a very close run thing !
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Just to split hairs...

Scandinavian also happens to be an adjective for things which come from Scandinavia though...! Therefore, a MD80 from/registered in a Scandinavian country could quite correctly be described as a Scandinavian MD80!
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Being Norwegian, and having nothing bad to say about the Icelandic, I still don't believe Iceland is considered part of Scandinavia.
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Hello to everybody, i am a ppl student and what a coincidence, i will be flying solo to Skiathos from Thessaloniki (lgts) on Wednesday, i will try to take some photos of the runway...
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i am a ppl student and what a coincidence, i will be flying solo to Skiathos from Thessaloniki (lgts) on Wednesday, i will try to take some photos of the runway...
If you're doing your PPL QXC I suggest it's possibly better you concentrate on your landing flare rather than trying to take photos !
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Dont worry, i will take the photos after having landed.... (I was almost certain that i would receive a reply as such!!!!)
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Aristomenis,

WHBM has said what a hundred ppruners thought! Now it's on your head, a moral obligation, to get those pics and post them here, otherwise we'll all suspect another coverup! Here's hoping your own skid marks are in the general direction of the centreline.

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Didn't someone post some aerial photos here of Skiathos ages back?
Perhaps I did,

Except of the ones available at airliners.net etc you can browse some from the private collection of Nataly Anemodoura.
http://hellasga.com/gallery/album09

I know one of the controllers at Skiathos.
I'll ask and if I have something on it I'll get back to you.
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That is one seriously low Olympic ATR-42!
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