Question re: Dublin
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The Cooler King
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Question re: Dublin
Hi Folks
I was just browsing at old photos on a.net and came across this one.
http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file?i...D&photo_nr=120
The 737 is lined up on 10, and the British Airways is at the holding point.
What is puzzling me is what seems to be a 747-400 at the top of the picture and while I'm not even suggesting for a minute that this is a doctored picture - I would appreciate a little help in understanding how it got to this point. Normally the outbound track would be much longer, unless the 747 turned fairly sharpish immediately after rotation......
any takers?
thanks
I was just browsing at old photos on a.net and came across this one.
http://www.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/open.file?i...D&photo_nr=120
The 737 is lined up on 10, and the British Airways is at the holding point.
What is puzzling me is what seems to be a 747-400 at the top of the picture and while I'm not even suggesting for a minute that this is a doctored picture - I would appreciate a little help in understanding how it got to this point. Normally the outbound track would be much longer, unless the 747 turned fairly sharpish immediately after rotation......
any takers?
thanks
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From: Greater Aldergrove
Don't think it's a 34 departure. That would have brought the 744 back towards the 737 over the photographers left shoulder rather than away from it.
A 10 departure with left turn out. Too tight for a 16.
A 10 departure with left turn out. Too tight for a 16.
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From: Ireland
Nah, looks to me that the information provided by the photographer is misleading.
You can clearly see the terminal buildings in the background. This implies that the EI 737 is facing south and holding short of Rwy10 (look at the signs on either side), the BA is facing west on the taxiway (with the long parallel boundary fence in the background) and the 747 is therefore turning north having departed Rwy 10. To take that photo from the boundary at that point would require quite a big zoom lens which would account somewhat for the apparent closeness of the 747 to the airport.
Next week, I will be revealing the identity of the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
You can clearly see the terminal buildings in the background. This implies that the EI 737 is facing south and holding short of Rwy10 (look at the signs on either side), the BA is facing west on the taxiway (with the long parallel boundary fence in the background) and the 747 is therefore turning north having departed Rwy 10. To take that photo from the boundary at that point would require quite a big zoom lens which would account somewhat for the apparent closeness of the 747 to the airport.
Next week, I will be revealing the identity of the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
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From: Munich
Another strange thing about the photo is the fact that there appears to be 2 Ba 747s, the 747/400 which is airborne and the one behind the airbus. Could the photo have been taken at Shannon? BA used to have training flights there. What's also a bit odd is fence, the northern perimeter fence along runway 10 is a wooden panelled structure whereas in the photo the fence looks like a normal chain linked type.
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The Cooler King
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<<Could a 747 take off from a runway other than 10/28?.>>
Photo.....
I have seen it with mine own eyes.
Singapore Airlines Cargo - light load - RWY 16. One of the regulars at EIDW but I haven't been there for two years now so not sure if she still comes in.....one of the local lads might be able to help me on this!
The best site for me was the Aer Turas DC8 landing on 16 on a beautiful summer's day with a b*stard of a crosswind. the crowds of Sunday drivers with their kids used to stop and look because it's so close to the threshold......anyway, sideslipping all the way, roars across the threshold as only a DC8 can.......result: about twenty kids under three all now screaming in panic and parents not having a clue what to do......God, the memories - I love 16!
Photo.....
I have seen it with mine own eyes.
Singapore Airlines Cargo - light load - RWY 16. One of the regulars at EIDW but I haven't been there for two years now so not sure if she still comes in.....one of the local lads might be able to help me on this!
The best site for me was the Aer Turas DC8 landing on 16 on a beautiful summer's day with a b*stard of a crosswind. the crowds of Sunday drivers with their kids used to stop and look because it's so close to the threshold......anyway, sideslipping all the way, roars across the threshold as only a DC8 can.......result: about twenty kids under three all now screaming in panic and parents not having a clue what to do......God, the memories - I love 16!
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From: EGNX
Can't comment on the orientation of this particular shot as I don't know the airport well enough but on the subject of a 747 departing on the short 34 - I can confirm it does happen; I've also seen it with my own eyes.
In fact if the aircraft is stopping at Shannon (as most of them do) and therefore light it will use less runway than, say, a 737.
In fact if the aircraft is stopping at Shannon (as most of them do) and therefore light it will use less runway than, say, a 737.
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From: Dublin, Ireland
As a local, I'm not at all convinced that this is at Dublin. As a photographer I don't know how you could get a shot at that angle and also the fencing in the background is the wrong type. Furthermore BA 747s have only appeared here on a handful of occasions and it is also a long time since BA A320s were even occasional visitors. I'm inclined to believe it is at Gatwick (runway 08 end) or maybe Manchester. If you are sufficiently interested you could of course e-mail the photographer via the link from the a. net photo.
