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Old 29th Aug 2003, 20:15
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Easier method to ignore.......

Click on "Profile" that appears above the offenders post. At the bottom of their profile appears link to "Add person to ignore list".

Job done.

Now, how do you get a DC10 crew when everyone knows you can't stand pilots? Answers on a postcard to 'Walter Mitty' Cork International Airport.
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Old 29th Aug 2003, 23:06
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CRK not ORK. There's 6600nm of a difference!
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Old 30th Aug 2003, 09:02
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Anti - cheers, job done.
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Old 30th Aug 2003, 21:48
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I confess to being one of those pilots using Dunsfold as a convenient turning point since it appeared on the 1:500000 chart as 'disused or abandoned'.

There is now a chart amendment dated 13/3/03 to say
"Amend Dunsfold Aerodrome to active status, Posn 510702N 0003209W, ELEV 180ft"

so I will return to my original route around the Gatwick CTA (MID to Guilford VRP).

TallGuy.

p.s. I refrained from posting originally since the thread was veering off the original topic, but now it has gone off in another direction anyway, I don't mind!
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Old 31st Aug 2003, 18:09
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Going back to the Concorde Fleet Rebellion angle, The Times yesterday reported that the rosters are due out shortly and each Captain will get one of the good trips.
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Old 1st Sep 2003, 03:05
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Yes... think you and The Times spot on. Spoke with a BA Flt Ops Mgr and Concorde CC who confirmed the Line Pilots v upset! Same Mgr confirmed Friday that someone "above" said Managers had decided a "review" was in order... sounds like your post reflects the result of that.

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Old 1st Sep 2003, 05:14
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http://www.concordesst.com/latestnews.html

Last flight BGI-LHR

"BA's chief Concorde pilot Mike Bannister who was in command for the outbound leg said before the flight: "The last flight from Barbados marks a sad day as we count down to the final retirement of Concorde in October."
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Old 1st Sep 2003, 07:50
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I think you will find Mike Bannister flew the Outbound BA273 (LHR-BGI) and Capt Les Brodie flew the final ever dept from Barbados - the BA272 - BGI-LHR

Gordon : editor - concordesst.com
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Old 2nd Sep 2003, 05:07
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Sounds like the times has a very good contact within BA,
If it carries on like this the crews will get their rosters in the sunday supplement !
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Old 2nd Sep 2003, 05:18
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Thanks for pointing that out! I didn't read it correctly!
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Old 2nd Sep 2003, 05:44
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Captain Brodie is also management. I wonder if he and Captain Bannister will do the last flight?

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Old 5th Sep 2003, 04:42
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re:

Did the BGI flights usually involve 2 seperate cockpit crews or was it done due to it being the last flight from there?
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Old 6th Sep 2003, 02:46
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Not quite sure of your point donder10 but as far as I am aware Concorde crews to BGI only operated one leg and then layover soaking up the sun for a week.
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Wish I had a night stop after a 3 1/2hr sector.Good luck guys,but watch out for the real world out there.
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Gaza,
wasn't quite sure if they had used 2 crews for the last BGI fleet as per the theme of this thread.Given that 2 were training captains that probably wasn't likely!
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Flight Engineer Rebellion

The Concorde Flight Engineers are particularly disgruntled. They were given a personal reassurance by Rod Eddington that they would be ‘looked after’. At the very least it was expected that being ‘looked after’ would translate into being treated on equal terms with their ex colleagues from the B747 classic fleet.

Not so it transpires. Re-deployment into Cabin Crew appears to be the best on offer while re-deployment into other posts would seem to involve a move into ‘non-existent’ jobs. This has resulted in considerable anger and a total collapse in moral from this section of the fleet. A tragic end to what in many cases will be 35 years of loyal service to B.A.

Moves are now being made to call for a strike ballot amongst this small but vital group. It’s possible then that this great aircraft’s retirement will come a little sooner than planned.

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Old 8th Sep 2003, 19:37
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Moves are now being made to call for a strike ballot amongst this small but vital group. It’s possible then that this great aircraft’s retirement will come a little sooner than planned.
........Except that the ground engineers are balloting for strike action as well and might actually beat them to it!
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Old 9th Sep 2003, 15:40
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Moves are now being made to call for a strike ballot amongst this small but vital group. It’s possible then that this great aircraft’s retirement will come a little sooner than planned.
What would this achieve? There jobs are gone. End of story. No aircraft on the BA fleet requires FE's. What do they expect BA to do? Allow them to report a few times each week, drink coffee and then retire? As others have said there are many other industries that have dispensed with employees when they are no longer required. Unfortunatley the FE's are in the same position.
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Old 9th Sep 2003, 16:25
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Gaza:

BA would want Concord to retire gracefully. So would the pilots, FEs, cabin crew and ground crew who've worked with the aircraft.

If this is the only recourse left available to express their feelings at the apparent shafting they're getting (especially the FEs and engineers) then I can see why they would want to do that - to ensure that BA sticks to the promise made.
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Old 14th Sep 2003, 22:30
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Latest information is that Mike Bannister had rostered himself to fly 24 out of the 29 special flights in the last few weeks of Concorde operation! No wonder the other guys were unhappy.
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