¿Que pasa en Vueling? En otro foro español salio la noticia que debido a la falta de tripulacion ahora quieren poner gente con ninguna experiencia como Capitain junto con gente sin experiencia en el A320.

¿Es eso cierto o no? Las palabras eran de un azafato con licencia de piloto que estaba muy feliz porque parecia que así podia pasar por delante.

¿alguien sabe algo sobre este tema? ¿entonces no eran mentiras lo que decian ? Cancelamos vuelos por falta de tripulaciones... :uhoh:

My Dear Icing,

Stay calm. You know me for a long time know, so you should know me better. Of course the reason for the deletion of the post in question is not that I disagree or that it is against VLG whatsoever (you only have to read the previous posts).

As you know, this site is watched very closely for possible ilegal alegations. For sure you can say you don't like somebody, or that you were mistreated, or you think somebdy doesn't know what s/he is doing. But for good or bad, you cannot say s/he is a criminal, because in this case the forum can be sued. For the same reason you cannot say a company is hiring people without a pilot's license to fly, or that a company is promoting pilots without qualification because that would constitute a crime: especially if you cannot prove your words; and if you can prove them, then you should go to the proper authorities (something which, on the other hand, I would back up 150% if it were true).

Having said that, I invite everybody to say whatever they like but bearing this in mind.

Thank you for your understanding

who got the 2000-3000 euro for relocation?
this is in the Vueling contract if I am correct.

at vueling you don't make enough for a living, and most pilots leave for this main reason.
Employment guaranty is uncertain as they prefer to fire pilots, instead to train them to the standards.

In a short term they will run out of pilots and paying a type rating to a freshly commercial pilot will cost them a lot more.

Kind of funny to see all these cabin attendants waiting impatiently for their interview in the Vueling main hall.At Vueling, they have a line of Cabin crew coming in and out.

do you think Vueling will go bankrupt?
45 euro to less 22 euro in 3 months, it hurts!!!:ouch:
http://marches.lefigaro.fr/stocks/va...ATION=16161758

yeah but don't you think it's a bit dangerous for the safety of flight to move F/O with less than 500 hrs operations on A320 to a Captain course when they could just improve the salary condition inside this company and in this way reduce the movement of qualified pilots towards other companies ? :confused:

I don't know if they will go in bankrupcy but for sure Vueling's stock options are not a good idea in this moment . The drop from 45 € to 22 € is not something good at all especially for the image of this company but actually there are too many example of illness inside this airlines that are not positive at all.

:ouch:

indeed ! how can the upgrade their FOs to the captain seat with only 500 hours Airbus and 2000 hours Cessna ? Flight safety and punctuality will go down :eek:

Dear all,

Speculating is for free, of course, but the requirements to be CAP have not changed and have been approved by Spanish CAA. It is absolutely wrong that you can be a CAP with less than 500 hrs on type and 2000 hrs on Cessnas.


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Change at Vueling ?
 

If you do not know what you are talking please be quiet.

The Captain upgrade statements posted are simply not true.

Please do not insult those who have gone through the process as it is not easy.

In fact one of the TRE's who does the Captain upgrade training at Vueling is ex-Virgin atlantic and has failied a lot of guys who were not up to standard

Perhaps there are people bitter at Vuelling because they did not get hired.

Recently 40% of new hires did not get through the simulator. They do not get into Vueling. These are facts.



The standards at Vueling are improving.

There are good FO's at Vueling with over 900 hours in the right seat over a year, they have still not been upgraded but will go soon.

With 40 Million Euros cash in the bank, fact I doubt Vueling go bankrupt soon.

Yeah there a lot of things to improve at Vueling like pay, pension,treatment


but we have really good food on board hot meals, that may be worth 300 Euros a month.


I think we have seen a change in the attitude of management with M.Bata.

It is also up to us pilots to pressure management.:ugh:

But there is a lot of work to be done

The management has made some changes but the pay is still below market and still has to be improved.

For those of you Vueling pilots the time is now to participate and take action! Get involved.

vueling is at 14.95 euro. the biggest drop (-5%)
(6 August 2007)

woow, what a fantastic company!!.
it is time to sell your stocks!!!

http://marches.lefigaro.fr/stocks/va...ATION=16161758


Vueling says that the rivalry came from the airlines as Iberia, Spanair, Air France and Alitalia and not from the cheap carriers.

I say they are are wrong, by example, Clickair is the low cost company of Iberia.Now Air france, is going to take care of Vueling cuz Air france can compete with a low cost airline.
Who said it would be a bloody battle?

Go Vueling!:ouch:

OK
 

DARTAGNAN are you working for vueling???

regrettably I used to work for them.

I am one of them who didn't pass their OPC check when I have been trained at the airbus standards by one of their school(at my own cost of course).
I was so tired of this company, that it was good to know I was out of this crazy house.
Understand that vueling do not train pilots(you have only 2 hours sim before the check, and during these 2 hours, you are not authorized to ask questions, if you do so, they will consider you are not at their standards to pass the OPC check, so better to keep it shut), if you do so, it is at your own cost.

If you fail any of their sim, they send you a bill and ask you to leave. This is what they did or tried with me, they sent me a bill for over 10'000 euro that I used as toilet paper.
I really feel bad for pilots who used to fly for vueling and have been asked to leave the company after having flown for them (and I am talking about good captains or copilots).What a disgraceful airline!!!

it's an incompetent airline blackmailing their staff.I will file a plaint to the spanish CAA.it won't change anything. A company is free to hire, who they want, and kick them out at their discretion.
It is not a stable company with stable jobs, it is just a step to fly for somebody else with a better pay. Anyway,some airlines have already contacted me, so will see what happen.

DARTAGNAN,
Were you trained at CAE Madrid?

Insane!
 

A mi es que no me cabe en la cabeza.

Primero que pagues un TR sin que tengas trabajo seguro. Ya me parece mal que lo pagues teniendolo....

Pero que luego te metas en una compañia asi! que no te dejan ni hablar, pero bueno, si cuando empiezas en una compañia es todo de color de rosas es luego cuando te empiezan con historias. Asi que en Vueling ya empiezan desde el principio!

Aqui hay gato encerrado, o soy los pilotos los que estais contando historias para no dormir O la compañia como indica el indice bursatil va a la baca rota en cualquier momento.

I translate with bablefish.

To my it is that it does not fit to me in the head. First that you pay a TR without you have safe work. It already seems to me bad that you pay it having it.... But that soon I put in a company asi to you! that they do not let nor speak to you, but good, if when you begin in a company he is everything of color of roses is soon when they begin to you with histories. Asi that in Vueling already begins from the beginning! Aqui is locked up cat, or I am the pilots those that stays counting histories not to sleep Or the company as it indicates indice bursatil go at any time to the broken roof rack.

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Vueling give you a job promess. this is what I got . I will get a job if I do a type rating. It doesn't mean they guaranty you a job for life.

I have been chocked when I discovered that their contract said I had to pass a second check in the sim ( We knew this after their 2 weeks course), and If I don't pass this check, I have to pay them the sim and leave.

The sim was much harder than a normal type rating test.It is only stress, stress to be kicked out.


20-40% fail this Vueling test. do you still want invest 30'000 euro in a A320 type rating?.

so :mad: Vueling and stay away from them!

Dartagnan,
20-40 Percent? FALSE
Very few people fail the check, obviously you were one who did and are not happy with the company. Dont be mad at the company, be mad at yourself for messing up. It might not be the best airline in the world, but they did give you a fair chance to fly a shiny brand new jet, you just werent able to cut it.

Sorry wrong language!
 

Sorry wrong language!

Superced,
This is an open forum and I can say what I wish. Fortunately for myself, my dad is a captain in Vueling and I know the correct number of people that fail the check. 20-40 Percent is completely false.

The number of people that fail that check is so small, that if I knew what year Dartagnan failed his check, and his nationality, I could possibly tell you his name.

In any case, he wasn’t able to cut it. Wait until he tells other airlines why Vueling fired him, I am sure he will have trouble getting hired somewhere else. No airline wants another airlines reject pilot.

It’s harsh, but it’s the truth.

Superced and Robeki.

Take it easy men. Stop making this thread something personal. The aim of this forum is to express your opinions about the subjects, not the people writing in it.

Now seat back and relax for a while.

yes I paid 30'000 euro for a fair chance with vueling and only to hear lies and blackmails from them.thank you to screw us our lives... !!!

but for me it is time to move on, I am already invited for interviews.Vueling was a bad airline and a bad start for me.

These things happen in life and I don't take it personaly, but I am here just to warn you that vueling is an ugly and incompetent airline to work for and with them it' s only a question of chance.Many competent pilots have already been asked to leave and they have found better employment.