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girolat_b 17th Jun 2007 10:12

You are right it was a news but... I will wait an official report to make my final opinion.

See you

Joaquín 17th Jun 2007 10:14

Giro,

you can believe me. I know what I'm talking about (in this situation, of course).

By the way, are you flying in Venezuela?

girolat_b 17th Jun 2007 10:22

But what was the distribution of the passengers ? I am the first to don't believe too much the journalists (Personal experience, not all but many are lying) but they were pretty sharp and they said clearly half of the a/c were empty while the other no. What do you know about it?

No I am in Spain now but you the song:"Volando voy, volando vengo..."
Tomorrow everything is possible...

Joaquín 17th Jun 2007 10:41

The answer is: not all the left half of the aircraft was precinted, only Rows 1 to 22

girolat_b 17th Jun 2007 12:03

Ok, thanks man

Saludos

Mach trim 20th Jun 2007 19:16

Cancelled flights for Lack of pilots
 
They followed the MEL but..
It was unwise to tape off half the plane with tape in that manner.

If it was 1L inop ?

I wanst there but ... ?
Isnt there are a better way to do it. Put table trays down and have the TCP's make sure they dont sit in that section


With so many pilots leaving...
It is such an issue for the CEO to keep the pilots on low pay, that now his stubborness is bodering on the ridiculous.:ugh:

I would not expect a change in pay or conditions at Vueling

The CEO would rather use the money on lawyers to fight the pilots who left in the courts than increase the pay for pilots.

Vueling says one thing to people and does another.
It only matters what you sign.

I confirm that Vueling has had to cancel at least 3 flights for lack of pilots.

Always Moving 21st Jun 2007 06:15

chilling in Spain
 
I friend of mine flying 737-800 was asked by the rampie if he could hook him up with a job(he meant on the 737), that he was a pilot also. my buddy said sure, there is an instructor job in China (i posted earlier) called [email protected]. Then he continue to tell me that he look at my friend like he called him SOB.

People in Spain prefer the kind of conditions (low pay, no pay, pay your own TR, buy a job, etc) than have to go out of Spain.

Yes, another of my friends got a gig in India and they seem to start hiring FO with TR (I already chew his ass for buying the TR and is on my "if I can I will not hire him list" and is my friend!, so I guess you can tell what is my position on the buying yourself a job racket)

There are jobs out there flying, but not all in Airline type of operation, good luck on job hunting... bad luck on job buying.....

AM

dartagnan 22nd Jun 2007 10:05

"The CEO would rather use the money on lawyers to fight the pilots who left in the courts than increase the pay for pilots"

uh??? pilots have no money.
What 's the point to sue poor ex-vueling pilots?

girolat_b 22nd Jun 2007 10:32


low pay, no pay, pay your own TR, buy a job, etc
Oh, yeah thanks Oracle you only know the true. Thanks before I couldn't see it but now I have clear I can see the true, my solution is move outside spanish border. Why I didn't try it before? May be because I did already and in many countries it is exactly like here. Otherwise look in this web site all the advertisement in english about Line training, Type ratings programs and buy a job and you will see they are in english language not spanish language ...

Oh, really really thank you. Captain, oh my Captain . What's next "Carpe Diem" ? :hmm:

Always Moving 25th Jun 2007 00:31

Blind or new at the pirate game?
 
You can mock me all you want but he reason of the state of entry level pay is because people as mention above.
And yes they are in English, daaaa, because English is what everyone can read.
Why is so many Canary Island people with ATR TR???? HMMM.....

girolat_b 25th Jun 2007 09:22

Yeah, we know the english are too fool to read something in another language . That's the reason :E!!!

Salut

Joaquín 25th Jun 2007 09:31

Dear fellows,

Please, please, let's not start with things like: "you know how Spanish/English people are..." because that won't get us anywhere.

Thanks

jetpilotataltitude 2nd Jul 2007 00:47

passengers left stranded 01.30 T4 July 2nd
 
Walking through T4 early this morning, heard lots of shouting and sceaming! PAX left by Vueling, flight cancelled, no crew to operate flight, poorly paid ground staff fending off very, very angry pax, where are the bosses:=? Last month 20 pilots left not 12 as earlier reported, and another 10 today so source close to airline reports! Its all looking very bad for operations continuing!!!! :uhoh:

Mach trim 7th Jul 2007 19:16

Vueling management just announced a pay increase.

But it may be too little too late

girolat_b 8th Jul 2007 19:49


Last month 20 pilots left not 12 as earlier reported, and another 10 today
Probably they left to go to San firmin (Pamplona) for the party as a spanish song say :}

W la Fiesta, Vueling don't call me to replace those pilots because I am in Pamplona running in front of a Bull and I don't have time to waste to come and work for you almost for free. Better "La fiesta" :mad:

A-3TWENTY 8th Jul 2007 20:31

How much was the pay increase ??? Anything special??

Joaquín 8th Jul 2007 20:49

Just let's say, the increase made us happy :)

A-3TWENTY 8th Jul 2007 20:57

I am asking because I am the guy who left the company 6 days after signing and
I am now at Click.

Did they reach Click conditions??

Joaquín 8th Jul 2007 21:18

The answer is YES they have.
:D

A-3TWENTY 8th Jul 2007 21:27

Very good for you at Vueling and for us at Click...For us is nothing interesting to have a neighbour earning much less than us...

And since there is a shortage of qualified A-320 pilots on the market , both companies if they want to join to their fleet all the planes they say , will have to struggle for the few qualified pilots in the market...

All this situation proves what I have been saying: never in the last 17 years when I started) the market was at the pilot`s side as it is now....

And I`ve already read that in 2015 will be a shortage of 17000 pilots worldwide...


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