SpaceX flight testing in South Texas

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From: La Rochelle.
This would appear to shed some light on possible issues:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN29Z06R
Reuters: JANUARY 30, 20215:13 AM UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO
Musk's SpaceX violated its launch license in explosive Starship test: the Verge
Musk's SpaceX violated its launch license in explosive Starship test: the Verge
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN29Z06R
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From: Brum
If some are to be believed it's somewhat important paperwork and the pace of the investigation into the previous "mishap"....I'd have thought "Range Safety"/safety of those on the ground was paramount, regardless of whether you are launching from a government facility in Florida or a back yard in Texas so it would be interesting to hear what has really gone on.
Elon Musk may well have a valid point but I hope this isn't a case of "we're private sector, I'm an entrepreneur, we don't need no pesky licence"?
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021...-and-starship/
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/29/2...tion-elon-musk
Elon Musk may well have a valid point but I hope this isn't a case of "we're private sector, I'm an entrepreneur, we don't need no pesky licence"?
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021...-and-starship/
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/29/2...tion-elon-musk

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From: The Winchester



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There are some well placed, knowledgeable people in the rocket business that think the FAA's and NASA's handling of manned spaceflight is making things less safe, not more.
One guy even wrote a book on it (I have a copy of it around here somewhere - unfortunately I can't remember the name right now - if I do I'll link it).
One guy even wrote a book on it (I have a copy of it around here somewhere - unfortunately I can't remember the name right now - if I do I'll link it).

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From: The Winchester
There are some well placed, knowledgeable people in the rocket business that think the FAA's and NASA's handling of manned spaceflight is making things less safe, not more.
One guy even wrote a book on it (I have a copy of it around here somewhere - unfortunately I can't remember the name right now - if I do I'll link it).
One guy even wrote a book on it (I have a copy of it around here somewhere - unfortunately I can't remember the name right now - if I do I'll link it).
ATB.

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This would appear to shed some light on possible issues:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN29Z06R
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN29Z06R



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I found it - "Safe is not an Option" by Rand Simberg

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I found it - "Safe is not an Option" by Rand Simberg
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0...2?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0...2?ie=UTF8&psc=1
) but have put the book in the "panier" for a future order.Last edited by wiggy; 31st January 2021 at 07:59.

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From: La Rochelle.
It doesn't really say what exactly was violated.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/29/2...tion-elon-musk
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From: USVI
3.2m waves @ 7 seconds in Starlink target zone....
Brownsville TFR's in place
01/31/2021 1/9222 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Wednesday, February 03, 2021 UTC
01/31/2021 1/9223 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Thursday, February 04, 2021 UTC
01/31/2021 1/9224 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Tuesday, February 02, 2021 UTC
01/31/2021 1/9221 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Monday, February 01, 2021 through Thursday, February 04, 2021 UTC
12/31/2020 0/0024 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Thursday, December 31, 2020 through Sunday, February 28, 2021 UTC
Brownsville TFR's in place
01/31/2021 1/9222 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Wednesday, February 03, 2021 UTC

01/31/2021 1/9223 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Thursday, February 04, 2021 UTC

01/31/2021 1/9224 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Tuesday, February 02, 2021 UTC

01/31/2021 1/9221 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Monday, February 01, 2021 through Thursday, February 04, 2021 UTC
12/31/2020 0/0024 ZHU TX SPACE OPERATIONS BROWNSVILLE, TX, Thursday, December 31, 2020 through Sunday, February 28, 2021 UTC
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From: Upminster UK.
The article in The Verge from a few days ago doesn't really quote any actual sources, and is mostly informed speculation.
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Elon Musk's private jet flew in to Brownsville overnight from Hawthorne.
The village has received an evacuation notice for today.
URLs are not showing up !
@elonjet and @bocachicagirl on Twitter for sources.


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Breath-taking flight, but rocket lost ~10 seconds pre-touchdown when second raptor engine suffered ignition failure. Despite an "inadvertent disassembly", much was learned I am sure.
- Ed
- Ed





