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Old 19th Nov 2023, 10:32
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I've not been able to find a source for that, but it won't happen. Perhaps this is another SpaceX launch? There is too much testing to go through after yesterday's launch but it will have to go through various authorities, so no, another test like this in a couple of weeks isn't going to happen.
Nothing occurred on this flight which requires the FAA to suspend their licence, look to the Falcon 9 development programme as a guide.

The current flight licence isn’t limited to a s8ngle flight but covers the entire programme (see below).

Having said that, Indont expect another flight till they’ll resolved the issues uncovered b6 this flight and rectified them, so I’d guess around next February.


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I completely disagree (with respect, of course!) and think the complete opposite is true. Landing humans on Mars is our next big step and it follows up on the explorers from centuries ago that explored the world. It's human nature to want to discover new things although we can do it with robots these days, there is nothing like having a person visit a new unexplored place and explain what it is really like. Don't forget that there is still a possibility that some form of life exists on Mars albeit microorganisms at best, but the possibility exists. If the human race gave up on exploration in the Middle Ages think what it would mean to us now if we even survived to this point. I doubt this forum would exist for a start.
I did not promote stopping discoveries and progress at all. Just this bring humans on Mars euphoria feels like an artificial thing just to get enough miners on Mars - one way?

To me something like the Japanese Hayabusa2 is the coolest thing to do. Land on fast moving Asteroids and bring back probes to earth having pre planned everything years ahead.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayabu...rn%20Australia.
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I made and annotated a graph of Starship's ascent today, capturing the speed at every 1-second interval from the livestream telemetry, and it revealed some interesting things:
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Originally Posted by Hokulea
I've not been able to find a source for that, but it won't happen. Perhaps this is another SpaceX launch? There is too much testing to go through after yesterday's launch but it will have to go through various authorities, so no, another test like this in a couple of weeks isn't going to happen.
Yeah, it was a while back when I saw it. Something vague like a NOTMAR or something. It was, of course, dependent on a successful 2nd launch however.
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Old 20th Nov 2023, 07:06
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Elon Musk:

Starship Flight 3 hardware should be ready to fly in 3 to 4 weeks. There are three ships in final production in the high bay (as can be seen from the highway).




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Booster 11 is now making its way to Megabay 1 for engine installation. Expect Booster 10 to be moved to the OLM in the next week.


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Elon Musk:

Just inspected the Starship launch pad and it is in great condition! No refurbishment needed to the water-cooled steel plate for next launch.

Congrats to @Spacex team & contractors for engineering & building such a robust system so rapidly!






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Elon Musk:

Just inspected the Starship launch pad and it is in great condition! No refurbishment needed to the water-cooled steel plate for next launch.

Congrats to @Spacex team & contractors for engineering & building such a robust system so rapidly!
That's indeed quite remarkable !
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Originally Posted by ORAC
I made and annotated a graph of Starship's ascent today, capturing the speed at every 1-second interval from the livestream telemetry, and it revealed some interesting things:
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...869377855.html
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Link does end up in a completely unrelated Twitter thread
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Ap9logies, correct link now in place.
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Videos of the demise of the Starship and some interpretation of what it shows…

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Spectacular footage of booster sequential engine shut down then relight after separation and flip.

Tracking camera footage of Super Heavy MECO (most engines cut off) as 30 of the booster's 33 Raptor engines shut down in preparation for hot-staging
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This close up showing the engines gimballing. I'm assuming they were set 'outwards' initially to minimise impinging effects on the booster.

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Ship 28 - unofficially the next ship to fly - has entered the High Bay after spending a long time in the Rocket Garden.

Hopefully one step closer to heading to the suborbital launch site for a Static Fire test.

​​​​​​​Ship 28 (as has its likely partner, Booster 10, has completed cryo testing at Masseys.
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S28, S29, S30, and S32 confirmed to be the last set of the V1 Starship prototypes.

It’s unknown what the next set will entail, but some upgrades that have been talked about include: stretched ship/booster, increased engine count (3 sea level and 6 vacuum, up from 3), and smaller, more leeward forward flaps.
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https://ringwatchers.com/article/s25-b9-updates


A Major Improvement: What Changed on Starship 25 and Booster 9?

SpaceX's Starship vehicle has been developed through rapid iteration from the beginning, and the rocket that most recently flew is a testament to that process. As SpaceX moves on from Starship's second flight, which was undoubtedly a major improvement from the first, this article will serve as a definitive list of the publically known changes on both Starship 25 and Super Heavy Booster 9. You can click the names in the previous sentence to jump to a specific vehicle.

This article is paired with CSI Starbase's brand new YouTube video, covering the changes made to Super Heavy Booster 9 based on the results of Starship's first flight test. An additional video will be posted in the future for the Ship. Be sure to check out the video!
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I'm editing our compilation of our slow mo footage from @SpaceX's #Starship IFT2 launch... these shots are INCREDIBLE!!! I'm SO proud of our team. And wait until you hear the audio, but for now, here's a preview of @considercosmos's tracker with my song "CRYO"

[4K Slow-Mo] Starship IFT-2 Supercut with clean audio and tracking!

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Old 26th Nov 2023, 17:40
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Video of Booster 15 gimballing 13 Raptor 4 engines.

Booster 15 upgrades:
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Lighter Grid Fins
Redesigned hot stage ring TPS
Improved ATP system
Raptor 4 engines
3.4mm tanks
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Old 27th Nov 2023, 13:03
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Why do the waffle-iron grids stay deployed in massive drag-inducing mode during liftoff? Wouldn't it be far better to articulate them to conform to the slipstream?
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Originally Posted by meleagertoo
Why do the waffle-iron grids stay deployed in massive drag-inducing mode during liftoff? Wouldn't it be far better to articulate them to conform to the slipstream?
They actually don't produce much drag. The booster ascends out of the thicker air quite quickly so by the time it's going fast enough for drag to be an issue, they air is thin enough not to matter. Also the mechanism to extend and retract them would just add more weight. As Elon says, the best part is no part.
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