Peach Aviation
 

Dear all,

Anyone here working for Peach Aviation could provide any information about the company, like working and training environment, conversion course duration, take home salary, etc?

Thanks in advance! ​

Yes. Any info would be much appreciated.
Thanks y’all

I saw the terms and conditions for Peach sent by an agency. So they assume that you will spent only half of the commuting allowance for commute and advertise the yearly bonus, which is not guaranteed, as a monthly installment. Removing that, I must say I was not very impressed. Unless there is something I am missing...

I suspect there will be a substantial number of type rated, recently unemployed Captains for whom the figures will be fine and dandy. Just a guess.

Whether there actually will be any positions for gaijin in Japan in the months/maybe years ahead....anyone's guess for now.
Suppose depends whether your're optimist, pessimist or realist.

Cheers :ok:

Yes, of course. I am not considering leaving my present company. I was just curious as they keep sending e-mail with terms and conditions for several airlines.

Some contract companies going fishing to increase their data base, some will try and make you sign exclusive contracts to act as sole agent - for positions that may not really exist or may exist...one day.

Japanese contracts have never been at the top end dollar wise and subject to win/lose on exchange rates but seen as reasonably good conditions, fairly honest dealings regards payments etc and if you can play the game their way ops wise then fairly stable.

All just IMHO of course.
Cheers

It seems that all interviews with Peach has now been moved to Skype for assessment during this time.
Had an initial Skype with their HR people, pretty much just questions about past expierneinec haw you would fit in with the Japanese culture?

They were very adamant that there would be no flight home once you start with training , which may take up to six months.

Just wondering how the Skype interview with they Flight Crew would be conducted.

Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I’m interested as well in getting more information about what to expect during Skype interview.
if someone can share more information I will be glad.
also regarding expansion how many pilots they expect to contract, how many airplanes on order...,

thank you in advance

All Japanese operators make it clear from day 1 that commuting (eg. going home) is ONLY available once checked out onto the line. Most agencies fail to inform their candidates about this.

Also having family over during training falls into two categories: it's either totally frowned upon or accepted on a "don't ask don't tell" basis. However accommodation provided is far too small for other than a couple staying in, in any case. Just another fact agencies fail to disclose.

Training is not easy either, high failure rate, as i hear.

Bottom line: expats are a necessity in aviation over there or at least were pre-covid19. I'm not sure about the future, but i have my doubts if it picks up again for the next year or two.

All of the above is second hand info from expat friends working over there at various Japanese operators, but hey this is pprune.

thank you. And why the failure rate is so high? Is for all the airlines the same?

AFAIK personal attitude is the main driver for failures. Not being Japanese "compatible" so i heard, whatever it means. That's how some of the guys put it for me. Also each and every company has to show the authority a failure rate as it wouldn't be normal according to their books that everyone or most of trainees pass. Some companies don't have their own checkers so the authority is doing the job for them. It must have something to do with the culture I guess.

I have just passed the first Skype interview. Was very light hearted and a personality check.

invited to a second interview via Skype. Anyone got any ideas on what this one covers? Suggests there will be management pilots and up to 5 people. Thanks in advance

thanks. Scheduled 7 days after being informed of first interview result.

Congrats buddy
What type of the questions did You get?

Reality
 

Why is the failure rate so high? It is commonly thought that there have to be failures in order to satisfy some hidden cultural agenda but it is simply not true. Rather than subscribe to a hypothetical conspiracy theory why not just accept the fact that the standards for the screening are higher than you may find elsewhere? That would also answer the question. That is not meant to be insulting at all and that does not necessarily mean that their pilots are inherently better. For instance, some actions in the cockpit that westerners take for granted hold more significance in Japan. CRM is something everyone thinks they understand but in Japan the manner in which you communicate with your flying partner, if less than perfect, is not just something that results in a comment at the debrief. It could mean a down because the checker thinks your management style is unsafe.

They set higher standards for screening in order to insure they get the best product available. Seems reasonable to me. Why accept fair to good when you really want excellent.

Compatible with the Japanese culture simply means polite to a high degree, humble (but not meek) and attentive. No real mystery there. No secret sauce needed.

Good luck to all.

JR is absolutely right !
the failure rate is high not because they want you to fail.
Its because you cant adapt to the Japanese way of doing things and the culture at work.
if you keep comparing to what you have done before and try to teach them how to do it that’s where the problem starts.
Japanese have a way of doing things which differ from the rest of the world.
Its not just the end result but how you do it as well .
All I can say this place not for everyone .
You need to be prepared very well before you come .
Start with an open mind , learn to do it the Japanese and then things will be better .
Training is lengthy and brutal .
But positive about Japan it’s a honest and civilized place .

Good Luck

I've been in contact with Peach recruitment (Rishworth), and they are accepting application packets. They are, however, also very up front right now that the recruitment process will take six or more months in the current environment. No one knows when things will speed up, or not.
FWIW, I'm JCAB licensed, and A320 typed.

I've been in Japan most of my career with three different companies and am interested in the Peach interview details. Any help is appreciated. What kind of questions were you asked on the first interview?

Hi guys I have 1st Skype interview with peach, anyone to share his interview experience? Thanks in advance

It was very personal question such as previous flight experience, reason why you apply, introducing yourself,

Good luck!

Grab a beverage of choice then go through the AirJapan thread for a few hours.
Have a break then have a look at other threads - Jetstar Japan, Skymark, Spring Japan, IBEX et al.

If you're serious these threads - in particular AirJapan - will answer 99% of any questions you may have.

Can also make for entertaining sidelines/comments at times! :ok:
Cheers

Two questions.

1. When do the 321LR's arrive?

2. Before Covid, how many hours would one do as a Line Captain (Not an Instructor) in a year on the commuting contract? I have heard anything from 800 to 450 quite a variation.

Thanks

First A320Neo arriving probably in October.

I just received this from one of the recruiters for Peach and
frankly not surprised either. I have not pasted the whole email just the relevant.
regard's,

We hope that you are keeping well. We would like to inform you that the position with Peach Aviation is currently on hold. We shall be in contact once recruitment opens and provide you with further details.

All contracts have been cancelled at Air Japan for the remainder of 2020 and possibly 2021. I wouldn't expect a job at any of the ANA subsidiaries for the foreseeable future.

Have you already been through the interview process and waiting on a sim assessment, or is this for an initial application?

It would have been for an app.
I went through a peach assessment before though a few years ago in Japan.

Also my guess would be regarding various operators in Japan is that they will be looking at JCAB licensed pilots first in the future even if non-type rated, before looking at anyone else.

Sure but what to do on the meantime! They're talking 2022

There is another aspect to all of this, how fast or slow the recovery will be, that nobody knows for sure and both ANA and JAL are bleeding cash rapidly. Thus far the mainline pilots haven't lost their jobs but if it comes to that, their JCAB license is heavier than yours or mine

Any news on Peach? Any expats left?

Yes still a number of expats on property with a class under way now... Another class was planned for March last time I spoke to a Mate who is in class now... Another mate is waiting for his COE certificate of employment for his work visa... He interviewed this past summer and his contract has him slotted for a 2021 class... J-land runs biz year starting Apr... From what has been said the Ministry of Justice has been reluctant to issue COE's with the covid thing, so those who were "in country" are the folks who were slotted for class... Peach is operating a greatly reduced schedule due to the current "state of emergency" however they should resume a more robust schedule 8 March... Prior to the state of emergency they were operating a fair domestic schedule much more so than JetStar Japan... If things finally break they will be in position staffing and aircraft to capture market, however they are burning thru cash as everybody is... Time will tell... From what a Japanese freind said they had stopped accepting applications due to Japanese Labor Law requiring them to retain said files for 5 years... Not sure if that is true but what was said... Best of luck... Cheers...

Cheers! That's not too bad news then. Well, still better than elsewhere.

You nailed it!

Wondering about their latest ad on recruiting captains with at least 500hrs PIC experience in Japan. My guess would be that it's a rather good opportunity for the ex-AJX crew laid off recently.

Finally, Aviation is getting out of Covid depress. Peach is hiring Expat holding ICAO license now. Is there anyone who can share some information? Commuting pattern or Annual leaves, Salary, and training for a rated captain etc.

Is there any difference between applying directly and through an agency?

Anybody got updates on Peach?
I have an online pre-interview coming up.

many thanks

Sorry but got to ask: what is a preinterview? An interview before the interview?

God, I do miss George Carlin...

Any news about the screening process and Autumn classes coming ?

Peach Aviation
 

Did you get any information about Autumn session ? Thanks