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squarecrow 6th Nov 2014 08:38

How about VNA Starskate. With your time should be pretty fast for you.
They lost alot of crew recently of 321 I heard but not sure about latest on Upgrade time and deal.

flying headbutt 13th Dec 2014 07:07

......afford line training! You gotta be kidding me :ugh: pay peanuts, get monkeys! :=

pfvspnf 13th Dec 2014 21:19

Haha ! Amazing how these clowns appear out of no where! There is no training , viet jet have cadets in a pool who have been waiting for sometime . Most of the hiring has been for experienced airbus FOs.

pilotchute 14th Dec 2014 06:23

Superaut,

People wanting too join VJ have the option for a while now to pay 30k USD'S to back door the way in. Usually 200 hour guys.

The company is seriously short of trainers and rostering is a sms every evening for your next day's schedule.

pfvspnf 14th Dec 2014 16:42

Most airlines ask for line training ? You are utterly confused! You will be laughed and ridiculed when you tell your next employer you paid for line training.

For your info I've flown everything from dash 8s to medium jets so I'm not waiting around for anything. And how dare you poke fun at Nigeria! You are a waste of time..

This is a scam , go ahead and do it!

FFRATS 15th Dec 2014 11:43

The problem is there will be managers (locals) getting a cut from any P2F program so there all for it! Corruption is a normal part of running a company here.

As far as what's not new is you pay for Upgrade Training currently. :ugh:

You are also asked to pay for a new Type rating if you change or you AC phased out regardless of years of service. e.g VN are asking for A350 or B787 endorsement costs, JPA went from B737 to A320 and charge for endorsement. (Some refused and left company)

If you come here as a high time FO thinking of quick Command, if you are offered be ready to pay for your training to do so!

I's not right, but P2F is used in some form already.

FFRATS

Vatslav 5th Nov 2015 06:39

Atrans & Vietjet
 
Hi all,
I am aware that this thread is old, but just wanted to know if someone got the experience with Atrans Aviation and Vietjet?

JAMUP 27th Nov 2015 13:58

Viet Jet and Alpha
 
Hi

Has anobody dealt or done training with Alpha Flight training in Philipines and then joined Viet jet,?

pilotmostafa 30th Dec 2015 15:34

atrans / Baa / Eagle jet / condor
 
does any one know anything about line training is it for real or not , and people that are saying we are talking shortcuts give me the long way i will do it but simply their is no other way

Vatslav 5th Jan 2016 06:13

pilotmostafa - I can confirm that it is for real and I am planning to go there myself at end of jan. or beginning of feb. Doing my A320 TR now

ReleasePT 15th Jan 2016 03:02

Hi,

I'd appreciate any info you might be able to provide. Could you please share?

Thanks.

danirao 30th Mar 2016 20:59

I just wanted to know if any of you has ever heard about "ATRANS AVIATION" working with Vietjet Air? or BAA training.

BAe 146-100 15th Apr 2016 19:13

Its real, but your gonna have to pay a small fortune to join.

pfvspnf 16th Apr 2016 13:49

Pay them per flight? :O! haha!

All of this is pretty corrupt. Be careful

Vatslav 23rd Aug 2016 11:06

Yes unfortunately it does cost money to join, not a big surprise there.
I have joined Vietjet and did not had any problems with them so far. Furthermore I know 10-15 other cadets who went same way as me.
If anyone have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me.

pfvspnf 24th Aug 2016 02:52

There are many who have had many many problems either ripped off or were on the ground for more than two years. Don't pay

Falcon999 24th Aug 2016 03:35

@ Vatslav i have some questions and just sent you an email, looking forward to hear from you. Thank you

HornetDrvr 3rd Sep 2016 18:32

And why would you ever pay for a job??? They are supposed to be paying you, not the other way around...

pfvspnf 4th Sep 2016 04:54

The program is cancelled but most captains have paid for the upgrade

BAe 146-100 4th Sep 2016 18:42

VJ has a pilot shortage, and cadets are still in line training right now, VJ needs pilots to expand and that is not going to change.

Vatslav 5th Sep 2016 11:11

Program is not cancelled. (pfvspnf - where do you get that information from?)

pfvspnf 6th Sep 2016 05:15

Go ahead and convince others to get scammed, maybe you are recruiting people to take their money ? It's a corrupt airline . Lots of nasty stories on the inside

yang919 6th Sep 2016 09:52


Originally Posted by Vatslav (Post 9483004)
Yes unfortunately it does cost money to join, not a big surprise there.
I have joined Vietjet and did not had any problems with them so far. Furthermore I know 10-15 other cadets who went same way as me.
If anyone have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me.

Viet jet still looking for A320 Capt?any agent suggestion?

yano 7th Sep 2016 01:43

Any info on payscale? Roster?

Vatslav 9th Sep 2016 09:00


Originally Posted by pfvspnf (Post 9498238)
Go ahead and convince others to get scammed, maybe you are recruiting people to take their money ? It's a corrupt airline . Lots of nasty stories on the inside

I definitely don’t want anyone to be scammed, nor am I recruiting anyone.
However, what I am doing is that I am trying to help people that have questions.

I have been in their place and was asking same questions in this forum as well, without getting any clear answers, (you can search my thread/post history)

Now I am inside and been through all the process and only happy to help others.
I don’t' feel scammed; I got what I have paid for. Yes, it is P2F, but we all make our own choices in life. Some are lucky to get a job without P2F, I was not one of the lucky ones, so I went the P2F route and now flying a "shiny jet" on same conditions as all others.

So, I still don't really understand what you mean by "scam"? How are people scammed here and where do you have that information from? If it can be confirmed, then I would only be happy to share your information with others.

johnjohncafe 9th Sep 2016 09:08

Hey Vatslav, I sent you a message a couple of weeks ago :)
Could you please get back to me ?
Thanks and I wish you the best of luck cause even if it's p2f, nothing is granted !

Vatslav 9th Sep 2016 10:58


Originally Posted by johnjohncafe (Post 9501985)
Hey Vatslav, I sent you a message a couple of weeks ago :)
Could you please get back to me ?
Thanks and I wish you the best of luck cause even if it's p2f, nothing is granted !

Heya johnjohncafe,
I just replied, hope you got it.

BAe 146-100 9th Sep 2016 17:23


now flying a "shiny jet" on same conditions as all others.
Hahaahah, funny stuff.

How is that 500 hours on no salary treating you.

Vatslav 9th Sep 2016 17:55


Originally Posted by BAe 146-100 (Post 9502548)
Hahaahah, funny stuff.

How is that 500 hours on no salary treating you.

That's for sure difficult the first 500 hours, I admit and agree with that :(
But I was aware of that condition before joining the program.

erick12345 13th Sep 2016 09:52

Yes. I heard that Atrans Avi from my one of my friend.
What is true for cadet. If you are doing with Atrans Aviation agency, you will not get salary until 500hr. I mean your salary is 0 USD. And from 500hr to a years your salary will be 1,000usd or 2,000usd. And from a year to second year, your salay will be 2,500USD.

Quite a nice contract with Atrans Avi. Haha.
If you are a rich guy. Go for it.

You must buy food. Pay for trasportation and find out rent home. How? By own your money. Haha.

But i have no idea. Why???? Many people still wanna contract with Atrans Avi? If you want be a slave for Atrans, go for it.

yellowcontrails 17th Sep 2016 04:03

A communist operation. You gotta be desperate to fly for those commie thugs.

The ex-PM of VietNam is part owner. How does a PM of one of the poorest countries in the world has money to open an airline? Crooks. Buyer beware!

EuroFin 21st Sep 2016 07:51

Very corrupted!! cadets pay 95-125k to get right seat, Right seat pays up 60k to get left seat, after sucking locals D.., left seat pay +50k for TRI etc...all about the money and corruption. If you know airplane have two wings & engine below you are in! And good to know is ; Vietnamise invented aviation... Good luck to you all & be safe !!

BAe 146-100 21st Sep 2016 08:03

^^

What he said.......

It is true that Vietjet has the most wealthy pilots in the world though. Just good luck getting out of there after you get your upgrade or TRI, because as far as I know no one managed to join somewhere decent.

pfvspnf 21st Sep 2016 08:56

Certainly going to find a way to blacklist them , will get out the pen and paper pretty soon for my letters to the authorities , you can't have your instructors also paying for positions.

izu 29th Sep 2016 11:48

Is Vietjet Air accept A320 rated first officers or they just prefer cadets ?

Thanks

EuroFin 30th Sep 2016 19:32

Sure they will accept but depends how much money you have?
They don't make money on passagers they make their money
On pilots !! Safe flying and good Luck ;) new cars ordered already so welcome!

pfvspnf 30th Sep 2016 22:15

What a terrible company name to have on your resume, pretty sure your cv will go straight to the trash the minute you try to leave

erick12345 9th Oct 2016 18:12

Atrans agency is over.
 
Is there anyone who know information that Atrans Aviation agency has over/ finished from vietjet air for cadet programme?

One of my friend who is still waiting for cadet at vietjet air through Atrans Avi Agency told me, its over. No more. All contract was canceled.

Somebody know about this?

pfvspnf 9th Oct 2016 21:51

Did your friend pay ?

erick12345 10th Oct 2016 02:37

No. not yet. He is still waiting for Atrnas
 

Originally Posted by pfvspnf (Post 9535608)
Did your friend pay ?


No. He just took a type rating. not pay yet. He is still waiting for Atrnas agency call.

Do you know much detail information?


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