How come PAL not flying to Europe anymore? almost every daily flight with KLM 777 are fully booked with OFWs

KLM have no competition on this route anymore:ugh:

CAAP now praying for FAA upgrade?
 

Php 14,000,000 or US Dollar 700,000 for bibles? Does your CAAP now have to pray for the upgrade?

http://philippineairspace.**********...e-haywire.html

she won't resign.......organic na yun dun!!!!! pray that she gets a boyfriend nalang :O

Ate FE
 

@windsheargo

NYHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHhHhHAHAHAHAHA

Siguro nawawala din lisensya mo no..??nyehahahahahaahahah:}

Is she still around?
 

Is she still around and yaking?

CAAP employees don't want to just shut their mouths, actually they want to shout at the top of their lungs about whats going on!....:mad:.

but sadly they can't......:(:ugh::confused::oh:

hopefully within this week or month some good change will happen....:ok::)

Change?? CAAP?? Really??
 

I hate to burst your bubble Romeo, but we live in the real world and the bitter reality is that CAAP is a hopeless case. It is being run by highly-trained-for-nothing people. They may have the right staff for operations but the wrong guys in management are running the show. Your optimism for a change is just a waste of time. If I were you, I'd get out of there asap. Yes, LEAVE NOW!! Take your talent and skills elsewhere. Some place where they are recognized, appreciated, respected and compensated for what they are worth.

That my friend is the change you are waiting for :ok:

like MJ's song..."make the change"
 

CAAP hopeless case???:confused:...i see birth pains the i wish we get over with....:ok:

the people who's running the show should go away not I........:mad::ugh::D
thought about leaving the agency but........
i love my job......:)
i enjoy my job......:)
i like it here.....being with my family and friends...:)
well the pays sucks,:{ :( that's life...it is better than nothing...:D

MJ....make the change........:ok:

Mr. Moderator what happened to my previous post?? Anyways..

These people will never go away. There is too much money and power at stake. They will cling to their position no matter what.

I agree with you!:ok:...oo nga nasaan yong previous post niya? at sa akin?...


ano ba yong OTBD

heard that people in CAAP are trying their best to stop schools from renewing their operator licenses by making things difficult with stiff requirements. :*

also heard that a few generals are behind this to push thru their own agenda of monopolizing the system (flying schools).:ouch:

I think a lot of schools will close down. less jobs for instructors

:\ anu ba naman yan

Flight schools
 

Yes, I've heard of these shocking deals with students particularly with one flying school. But let's not generalize, some schools are still honest.

donations
 

if you encounter any difficulties with them ''baka kulang ka sa donation'' :\:\

Uhm that's bad when you think CAAP is about public service and representing the Philippines to the aviation industry :=

Aaahh... Finally, after the long wait, it's out now. 30-40% increase in salary for the technical staff. Not bad.. but still way, way off the 100% increase that has been promised before. Although the allowances issues are still dodgy at this stage. Is this the beginning of a better life in CAAP?

FYI people, we are the technical staff. We're not included in those donation boxes that's been mentioned in this forum. They've (Safety Div) been increased as well. Will this be the end of the so-called "donations" issue?

A Senior Aviation Safety Inspector at the Safety Div earns around P20,000/mo. With a 40% increase thats about P28,000 w/o taxes, this is still very LOW :{ A manager in a big MRO in the Phil usually gets a pay of about P50,000/mo. You cant convince highly qualified people to join CAAP with this kind of salary. In that case they would still have to have the donation box :ugh:

CAAP Increase
 

20t is just the basic. Their allowances are just unbelievably off-the-roof. However, the donation thing will continuously be there, lantaran man o patago, it's part of the culture already.

30-40% increase might be decent enough but the fact remains the same; People will continue to leave not only because of the money issue. The corrupt practices, bad politics and rotten system of CAAP are unbearable to many employees, ATCs in particular. A big proof of this is the huge turnout of applicants when a South African HR came over to recruit experienced controllers.

What is the management's word on this? "Let them go, they can be replaced". Yeah right!? By a young, newly grad who they expect to talk to 20-30 aircraft at any given time and expect the same results. You can never buy experience!!! When will they ever learn that!?

Uhm, well Philippine Civil Aviation will indeed suffer with these people around :=, if ever our category goes down the drain we can thank these people:ugh: it only take a few rotten tomatoes to spoil whole bunch:yuk:,

sheck pilots
 

are you having problems with your pilots license talk to capt.? saturnino ''satee'' de la cruz he will fix it all just make sure you will have something for him,''volvo'' parts or money,kun di siya pwede yun mga bata niya sa tabi niya will handle it si jay and bergonio.
de la cruz an air force wash out and came to manila and was helped by another old pilot who was a syndicate leader in smuggling before lito J.
if you will renew your license be ready with your cash depending on your flaps setting on landing,if flaps 40 get ready with your 4t php
am not kidding try it....luma yun mga general dyan sa office ni ciron sa abilidad:{

Hey guys,
I had heard about all those things which go on in CAAP, from giving cash to delays. But believe me I went for my initial license and I found no delyas and but found everyone very helpful and even didn't pay anyone a single penny for anything apart from the one mentioned above which you ought to pay either you like it or not. I mean the rest were not bad as I processed some of my things myslef.

Rated Pilots
 

what about the competition between organic and consultants? how will this ever get solved. how can caap get rated gents when organic pay structure would be by passed and get paid ( higher than the president):confused:

Can and how would I convert a Canadian or Malaysian ATPL to Philippines?

I've never had to pay a bribe at CAA/BAT/ATO/CAAP. I've encountered delays but they were mostly due to my own fault, e.g. incomplete requirements. Occasionally a delay was due to the signatory being out of town.

So I have learned to double-check my applications for compliance with all requirements. I have extra photocopies of everything. I have lots of ID pictures in various sizes.

A lot of people approach the CAAP with dubious credentials. Most student pilots are enrolled with fly-by-night flying schools. These people are just the kind of folks the crocodiles at CAAP eat for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

If your application for anything whatsoever is complete, CAAP has no choice but to issue whatever it is you applied for. In any case, they must respond to your application or any other written communication within 7 working days. That is the law. Otherwise, they are answerable to the Ombudsman.

The crook who ran the ATO not too long ago learned that the hard way. Having sat on an application for nearly a month, he was reported to the Ombudsman. Shortly thereafter he called the complainant and asked, "Why did you have to report me? We could have talked this out."

The application was approved immediately thereafter.

He lost his job shortly thereafter. Unfortunately his replacement is not much better.

PhD = pay here, dummy!

:D

Dr. Ruben Ciron
 

“My training molded me into a whole person”

Dr. Ruben Ciron says his training from Asia Graduate School of Theology (AGST), Philippines, “molded me into a whole person: physically, spiritually, emotionally and relationally. It enhanced my spiritual maturity, allowing me to obtain the skills for active involvement in church and parachurch ministries.”

In Ruben’s current position as Assistant Secretary for Personnel for the Armed Forces of the Philippines, he says, “My ministry studies have equipped me to handle the Department’s human resource development, particularly in the area of moral value formation program of our personnel.” The Department has been conducting Purpose Driven Life Seminars for almost two years, not only to Armed Forces personnel but also to Philippine National Police personnel. In addition, Ruben says, “My AGST dissertation research on emotional intelligence has further enhanced my spiritual and emotional maturity, allowing me to develop more personal and social competencies, empathy and social skills to manage and handle relationships.”

Ruben says the skills he learned in his studies helped him in his previous positions as well, including leadership in three major parachurch ministries (Vice President for Southeast Asia of the Association of Military Christian Fellowships International; Director of International Team Philippines ministry; Director of Fellowship of Christians in Government), as well as Field Commander and Staff Officer of the Armed Forces of the Philippines and Assistant Secretary of the Department of National Defense.

Ruben’s future ministry goals include continued reaching out to government personnel in the Philippines and in other countries. “Please pray that I may be an effective witness in the military and government offices.”





Date: 1/7/2009 11:54:28 AM

Source: Overseas Council - ?My training molded me into a whole person?

Dr. Ciron
 

Holy corrupt! :yuk:

this simply means he does not know one bit of philippine aviation and its problems.....

Career officers and personnel from the Civil Avation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) have asked the Civil Service Commission (CSC) and the Department of Budget and Management (DBM) to look into the rampant hiring of consultants in the agency at the expense of more senior insiders.
In a letter signed by 63 CAAP officials and employees, copies of which were sent to CSC, DBM and even Congress, CAAP acting chief Ruben Ciron was alleged to have “brought along some of his trusted people, friends and military classmates to join him in the CAAP.”
“They were hired as consultants. To date, we have about more or less 100 consultants. But what is bizarre, if the CSC is not aware of this, some of these consultants were assigned to regular positions supervising regular and career personnel,” the letter said.
The complainants said the acts of Ciron, a former Air Force general reportedly close to Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, violated CSC Memorandum Circular 26, series of 1997 “prohibiting the designation of consultants, contractual and non-career employees to positions exercising control or supervision over regular and career personnel.”
“Our restlessness and apprehensions for the time being until these issues are resolved remain with us,” the group added.
While the 63 signatories were from the agency’s Flight Standards Inspectorate Service (FSIS), other divisions in the CAAP were similarly unhappy on how Ciron and his consultants were running the agency.
In a separate position paper, CAAP insiders complained that the agency officials hired many who “have no technical expertise needed by CAAP. In fact, they claimed many functions are redundant of those of regular employees.”
They said they will bring the matter to higher authorities, including the “anomalous and highly controversial transfer of P874 million” from the Land Bank of the Philippines to United Coconut Planters Bank, a private bank.
“Provided that they were authorized by the CAAP Board, why (was) the board resolution which authorizes the director general and other CAAP officers to sign and operate a CAAP bank account was signed by proxies and not by the regular or principal members of the CAAP Board who are the secretaries of various departments such as Department of Labor and Employment, Department of Finance, Department of Foreign Affairs, Department of Justice, Department of Interior and Local Government and Department of Transportation and Communications?” the employees asked.
The employees further claimed only Ciron and the acting corporate treasurer who is also his chief of staff have complete control over these funds.
On May 19, 2009, they said Ciron made a P500,000 cash advance “with the information that it has been approved by the Board.”
After the Holy Week, on the other hand, CAAP chief of staff Ronaldo Manlipig reimbursed P59,000 from the CAAP funds covering expenses incurred during official functions by Ciron’s office. The receipts submitted by Manlapig, however, indicated that much of the expenditures were made on April 11, 2009 during an outing at the Eagle Point resort in Mabini, Batangas.

Now we can stop guessing why Dr. Ciron has refused to vacate his post notwithstanding his retirement.

Wait a minute!

Let's guess!

1. Either he's prolonging his stay so he can enjoy the CAAP's bank account longer; or

2. He needs extra time to cover his tracks.

FSIS, by the way, has shown a modicum of objectiveness and impartiality by effecting the one month suspension of PAL's SAVP after he violated an ATC clearance a month or so ago.

The aviation industry in the philippines is already "self regulating" due to the fact that the CAAP is already a dead agency! :{

Is FAA stupid or who is fooling whom?
 

Does FAA not know how to plan a technical mission? Why do they have to cancel on such a short notice the audit? Does FAA not know what they are doing or is it just another lame excuse of CAAP like in the past?

Initial air safety review moved to January 2012 | BusinessWorld Online Edition


Initial air safety review moved to January 2012

THE US Federal Aviation Authority’s (FAA) preliminary review of the Philippine aviation industry has been moved back a month to January next year, a development that comes after the European Union added two more local carriers to a blacklist for not complying with safety standards.
“FAA has requested to reschedule it to a month later ... so it will be in January. They weren’t able to organize a complete team to send to the Philippines,” Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) Director General Ramon S. Gutierrez said.
A date for the actual audit has yet to be scheduled.
The government invited the FAA to conduct the review hopes of obtaining a rating upgrade that would allow local carriers to expand their operations to the US. Mr. Gutierrez claimed his office was “confident” the country had satisfied all requirements.
“Yes, we are confident [that we will get a rating upgrade]. Still, audits are subjective. We’re keeping our fingers crossed,” Mr. Gutierrez said.
The FAA downgraded the Philippines to “category 2” in 2008 after a safety audit in November 2007, preventing Philippine carriers from expanding operations. Flag carrier Philippine Airlines is presently the only one flying to the US.
The Philippines has since passed Republic Act 9497 or the Civil Aviation Authority Act of 2008, which aims to upgrade local aviation standards.
Mr. Gutierrez said that following the FAA audit, the government plans to invite the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) and the European Union (EU) to do their own reviews. The ICAO designated the country as a “significant safety concern” in December 2009. The EU in 2010 blacklisted all Philippine carriers. On Monday, the EU announced that it was adding two local airlines to the list along with carriers from other countries. -- K. A. Martin

Is FAA stupid or who is fooling whom?
 

caapslave: The reason why the FAA rescheduled (not 'cancelled') their preliminary review (not 'technical mission') to the Philippines is given in the statement; "They weren’t able to organize a complete team to send to the Philippines”. Why do you insist on seeing skulduggery, deception and corruption etc. with every announcement by the CAAP?

@Saint Jack
does this not proof the truth?

CAAP wants aviation systems audit postponed - The Philippine Star » News » Headlines

CAAP wants aviation systems audit postponed
By Rainier Allan Ronda (The Philippine Star) Updated December 05, 2011 12:00 AM Comments (0)

MANILA, Philippines - The Philippines will have to wait a little longer to take a shot at regaining Category I status with the US Federal Aviation Authority (FAA) after the postponement of the aviation systems audit supposed to be conducted today.

Sources told The STAR the postponement was done upon the request of the Tim Neel & Associates (TNA), a US aviation systems expert hired by the Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC), after reportedly finding the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines (CAAP) not ready for the strict and highly technical US FAA audit.

“The CAAP is requesting for the audit to be moved to Jan. 27 instead of Dec. 5 but the US FAA has not yet replied if they are okay with the new schedule,” the source said.

The move of TNA in postponing the US FAA audit has reportedly incurred the ire of the CAAP top management, since the delay will put it in the hot seat with Malacañang and DOTC Secretary Manuel Roxas II with earlier guarantees that they will pass the audit and regain the US FAA Category I rating.

The postponement will be a big blow to beleaguered local carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL), which was the one most affected by the move of the US FAA to downgrade the Philippines from Category I to Category II status, with the effect of the downgrade barring carriers of Category II status countries from opening new routes to US airports.

PAL had ordered new wide-bodied aircraft for long haul flights several years ago and were about to accept delivery of the airplanes, expected to be used for new routes to the US from their current flights into San Francisco and Los Angeles.

CAAP MEDICAL EXAM
 

it really sucks on how the caap medical certificate is being done. its just a money making venture!!! imagine the aviation medical examiner charging P500 pesos fee without necessary O.R.??? they just issue a fu@?#* 2inch X 3 inch paper stating that you paid. No wonder we are still in sorry state.

CAAP failed to prepare the country for the FAA review
 

http://philippineairspace.********.c...y-for-faa.html

CAAP failed to prepare the country for the FAA review

Manila - The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has rated the Philippines anew as "FAILED" in its aviation compliance directive, and recommended that the country should remain further under heightened surveillance (CAT 2), according to initial reports submitted to Washington.

"It (the Philippines) failed to pass our technical review" says one of the members of the FAA team that went to the Philippines two weeks ago. He was speaking on conditions of anonymity as he was not authorized to speak on the matter.


Among the FAA Technical Team that went to the Philippines were Jacque Astre, FAA Team Leader; Beverly Sharkey, Team Attorney; Craig Michael, Operations Team Member; Andre Lamarre, Airworthiness Team Member and Julianna Kim, State Department International Transportation Officer, as observer.

"We told the Secretary of Transport the real score and he was disappointed with our report" says the source. The FAA Audit Report was already shipped to the Philippines last week.

Department of Transportation and Communications (DOTC) Secretary Mar Roxas was reported to have walked out during an exit conference last January 27, 2012 conducted by Operations Inspector Specialist Jacques Astre, head of the FAA technical team, when he was mislead by CAAP officials as to its readiness to take on the FAA audit.

Secretary Roxas hurriedly left the CAAP building in Pasay City around 11:30 in disgust followed by some CAAP officials pleading to him to come back to the meeting but his face showed how the progress review went. Sources from inside DOTC said that the Secretary was so disgusted with CAAP officials, saying the officials failed to prepare the country for the FAA review.

Press briefing later that day showed a sanitized report as it contained contradictory statement to the real score of Philippine Aviation announcing a complimentary remark from Jacques Astre.

In the announcement, CAAP declared that the Federal Aviation Administration’s Technical Review team tasked with assessing the country’s readiness for an International Aviation Safety Assessment (IASA) audit complimented the CAAP on its progress, saying the agency had accomplished “more in six months than in the previous five years.”

The FAA representative however stopped short of declaring the Philippines eligible for Category 1 status, pointing out that issues in Legislation, Licensing & Certification Obligations and Resolution on Safety Issues still has to be resolved.

FAA inspectors was very concerned on CAAP’s certification processes for aircraft and personnel, and should accordingly focus its efforts in resolving the problem, the report said.

FAA said that the next audit will be done by The International Aviation Safety Assessment Program (IASA) sometime in February but the specific date was not announced to CAAP. The FAA report said another technical review is necessary before another formal audit could be conducted.

The International Aviation Safety Assessment Program (IASA Program) is a program established by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration in 1992 designed to appreciate a country's ability to adhere to standards and recommended practices for aircraft operations and maintenance.

Upon hearing Astre's remarks, DOTC Secretary Mar Roxas became infuriated with the CAAP officials in attendance at the briefing, berating them for failing to adequately prepare for the FAA review before walking out of the meeting.

Sec. Roxas was interviewed later by the Inquirer who hinted that the Aquino Administration might consider giving up on the issue of upgrading our aviation status, explaining that “It’s our decision to invite them [the FAA] back,” based on the findings of the technical review team’s report.

The FAA told CAAP that it should focus more its attention to the five phases in certification process: application, submission of documents, review of submitted documents, demonstration of capability and issuance of certificate.

When pressed for comment, CAAP said that they were “minor issues” that can easily be resolved.

“The technical review is meant to prepare us for the IASA audit. Minor issues need to be rectified. We ask questions and they provide answers and recommendations. In the actual audit, there will be no questions. It’s either pass or fail,” said CAAP director general Ramon Gutierrez Saturday.

At least one of the doctors work for PAL. I guess PAL can't pay him well and since he can't leave the country like the pilots, this must be easy job for him.

Philippines - UK PPL.
 

I am a UK National and hold a UK PPL. Can this be used in the Phils? What steps would be necessary to fly an RP registered a/c solo?

Any suggestions or directions to further information gratfully recieved.

Salamat. :)