Singaporeair Captain recruitment
 

Anymore informations concerning the singapore airline's recruitment of B777 and A330 Captains?
Moreover eventhough allready discussed cost of living and taxe system in Singapore...
Thx Australian

Salary breakdown?
 

I've followed the SIA Cargo thread over the past couple of years and gleaned some good information from that particular thread.

What is Main Line like?
Can someone please break down the $210 000 annual salary.

Does that number include housing and education allowances? Per-diems?

I know there were problems in the past with SIA cargo on what was promised during the interview versus what was actually delivered. Has that now been corrected?

Appreciate any information,

Regards,

Chapola

I guess this is for the main line...

I hear that we will shortly witness an unofficial exchange of crews between SIA and VAustralia. VA will pinch some B777 Cpts and SIA will then pinch some Australian pilots with an Australian Base of choice.

Jetblue,

If that is true what experience levels are they after?:)

Cheers

SIA salary
 

Chapola you may rest assured that no SIA Captain earns $210.000 annualy. The real numbers are much,much higher. Even for the cargo boys. The last years with the healthy bonuses, 13th salary, annual completion bonus, education and house allowances + share options the picture is way,way different. To all SIA wannabes two thumbs up. The DEC program most likely to be restarted march-june 2009. Best regards and good luck to all..... :ok:

SQ
 

Capt.Bee

THe DEC program has restarted!!! have a look at the latest Flight International magazine, SQ is looking for 777 and 330 Capts.

Cheers :ok:

B777/A330 Captains - Singapore - Flight Crew SINGAPORE AIRLINES REQUIRES B777/A330 Captains Singapore Airlines Invites applications for the positions of B777 and A330 Captains based in Singapore. REQUIREMENTS Applicants should have at least 7000 hours total inclusive of 3000 PIC hours on modern commercial Jets In i ...
Job Role: Captain/s | Job Hours: Full-Time | Location: Singapore | Job Position: Permanent | Salary: Annual remuneration of approximately S$210,000 , inclusive of profit | Company: Singapore Airlines | Published Date: 19 February 2008 11:54:01
74world my hat is off mate :ok:
Been told Captains needed early next year, because we are fat on Captains in almost every department. Most likely collecting CVs or something new's going on. :hmm: Good luck to everyone. :ok:

Maybe we have "fat Captains" in many departments but recently heard that we are actually short. Also there are people not wanting to renew their contracts.....

I don't have the exact numbers but Cargo is also seeing some significant activity on the recruiting front. Quite a few have left/are about to leave for the sand pit - most citing inadequate Housing/Education Allowance as major 'push' factors.

Application Form for DEC at SQ
 

The advert in Flight refers to an application form available at the singaporeair website.The only reference I can find on the careers website is for Cadet Pilot applications.There is an application form for Cadets which, at a push, would suffice for a DEC position but it is certainly not what would be expected. Am I missing something obvious here or have SQ perhaps got the ad placed in Flight before their website has been updated?

The Flight ad does allow the option of sending an application/CV via the magazine's own system--this seems a little simplistic as I recall many years ago the SQ form being complex with many documents required.

Suggestions most welcome.

Regards,
Caissa

That's SQ for you I'm afraid....a great place to live and work but their in house "IT and electronic" set up is a shambles. If you manage to get an application form somehow, by all means try it online but if you can, fill it out manually and send it in by mail or even better if you know someone here get them to drop it in personally as well.....not to say that it wont work online but.... belts and braces!!!

Caissa,
it's in their website. try this:
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...ot.jsp#Header3
once you open this page, just keep scrolling down. If still no joy, PM me, will send you a copy. good luck
FC

B777/A330 Captains based in Singapore
 

Any other base available for Expact contracts ?

no - only Singapore

Curious how strict the SIA rectuiters are re the 3000 hrs on international ops. The international ops part could be open to interpretation. Is anyone aware of B737NG Captains getting a direct entry command on the B777 with SIA?

737 captains were accepted before with sq cargo but as 1st officers only and with the promise of an earlier than normal upgrade, as to if any of them got it I dont know

No command course in SIA Cargo for anyone yet, but I believe that there are some plans for command courses for the future. However, this being Singapore, there is (surprise, surprise) a catch. If you are an F/O on contract terms you have to accept a local contract for (I believe) a period of 2 years before being 'considered' for command. If you have 2 children in school in Singapore then thats a combined loss of Housing and Education Allowance of $6150 per month - for at least 24 months - and all for the 'chance' of a command!

Hardly surpising then that we have a lot of experienced and capable F/Os on short finals to the sand pit and Japan.:ok:

Quick question.
 

Hi guys,

For a DEC on the 330, let's say an applicant has 6750 TT, with 2400 PIC all on the A320, what are the chances?

Does the 7000 TT 3000 PIC stand firm?

Thanks...

Guys - SQ will move the goal posts to suit their EVERY whim - you just don't know until you apply. 6 years ago mainline recruited numerous blokes onto the 777, who had 320 or 737 command time, and having flown most of their time in the same country.

Jetblue - the SIA recruiters are usually cadet pilots in between training who get seconded to "help" the 4 floor staff. They read an application and file it according to the criteria of the day!

Expatriate Contracts
 

Hi,

Does anyone know whether the B777/A330 positions are being offered along with Expat Contracts i.e. with Accomodation & childrens education covered by SQ ? Do they still offer those ? Or is it only on "National Terms" these days ?

Cheers

Edu + Rent
 

Have heard that rents in Singapore have dramatically increased recently and that newly arriving expats are having difficulty finding places for their kids in the International schools there. No places. No point in being there if you have to live in a shoe-box by yourself, unless that suits of course.

Platypus54, that is a fact. Rents are at pre SARS levels and higher and international schools are jam packed. For two middle school children expect little change from S$50,000 pa and similar or more for rent with after tax dollars.

Singapore governments own figures on the property market at

http://www.ura.gov.sg/real_estate/main.jsp

In the last 3+ years, Housing Allowance has increased by 11.6% taxable and rentals have increased by about 60% - more in some areas.

You can still find the odd condo unit just within the Housing Allowance but it might leave you with a long commute to work and be in a remote location so that everything is a cab ride away. Net result? What you save on the rental you will spend on transport and ancillary costs and your family will feel isolated while you are away flying.

The situation needs addressing urgently but it wont happen until enough people vote with their feet. That is slowly starting to happen in Cargo.

On the bright side. Singapore is safe, clean, efficient and apart from housing, education and car ownership, the cost of living is bearable.

Application Form for DEC at SQ
flyingcrazy many thanks I now have the application form So many thanks! I had the same problem as Caissa I also could not find an application form available at the singaporeair website.The only reference I could find on the careers website was for Cadet Pilot applications too. So it looks as if Caissa you hit the nail on the head and SQ got the ad placed in Flight before their website has been updated? I did email them this so hopefully that helped fix the problem. Good luck. Any ideas on the tax in SIN?

Income Tax rates in Singapore:

http://www.mof.gov.sg/taxation/indiv...tax_rates.html

You can also apply for 'Not Ordinarily Resident' scheme. See

http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page03.aspx?id=6118

Provided you have not lived in Singapore for 3 consecutive years you can apply for NOR status and you will be charged tax at a flat rate of 10% on your taxable income for a period of 5 years. It works out overall at about 7.5%, as a portion of your income is tax free as it is earned outside Singapore and is designed to cover down route expenses.

Not really worth applying for as an F/O as you need to earn about $190k pa for it to become worthwhile.

Any up to date info on actual average income for a B777 Captain based in SIN?

Couldn't find a max age for applicants, anybody have an idea what it is.:)

I believe it used to be max age of 55 for DEC's at both SIA and SIAC...Some mainline Capt's left SIA at 60 and joined Cargo and may work until 62.

Straits Times article from 24/04/07 quoted a figure of S$271 888 at mid point of the salary bracket. This is made up of basic pay, productivity allowance, overnight allowance, inflight + overseas meal allowance, monthly + annual variable allowance, annual wage supplement and annual profit sharing.

Obviously this is an average and actual amount would depend on the amount and type of flying done, along with company profitability.

For those on expat/contract terms the housing allowance will only get you a basic condo away from town, be prepared to kick in S$1000 - 1500 month extra for the sort of place and location a Captain would have been living in two years ago. Not sure of current rate at Changi Village hotel, some expat SQ captains used the housing allowance to live there permanently. Be warned that hotel rates have skyrocketed along with rents.

Education allowance will also need some help in covering British/American/Australian International School fees.

In short a nice safe place to live and work in, BUT getting increasingly expensive and packages are not keeping pace.

Good schools must be a problem.
Got a friend there who has been shuffling kids about waiting for places in good school.
He says an immediate place in the Brit school will now cost you SGD $170,000plus the deposits and school fees.

For those that are interested on coming over to lion city, condos away from expat areas range from $2500 (1100 sq foot) to about $4000++ per month. Those in prime areas of the same size will set you back double or more.

A 3 year old toyota camry will set you back about 60k. Road tax and insurance should be about 2k per year.

After all, Singapore is only 650km square. East to west is only about 40km, north to south is about 30km. Much smaller than most average major city.

Cab fare from airport in the east to the most west end of the island will set you back about $25 in the day and 50% extra in the night. I personally cab almost everywhere and hardly spend more than 1.5k per month on transport.

Train fare range from about $1.20 to $3. East to west takes 45mins. North to south about 30mins. north east to south about 25min.

I guess it all depends on what kind of expectation you come with. If you are looking for lifestyle of that of a New yorker staying near times sq, the pay package here is not enough.

If your family can come to terms with living further away from town (gentle reminder of the 650sq km land area), spend your savings from the rental on car to make up. It might just about balance things up.

As for education, it is a tad on the expensive side.

Just my 5 cents.

correct, winglet-fever, and you have to add that the condos close to the airport are the least expensive ones. You pay less for transport, too. The prefered areas are the ones in the east. You only have a long ride if you want to go to town. But to the airport it's very close.

Dani

170K for school? Hope it's a misprint...I have two in a good International school and I can tell you it's way less then that...Maybe you meant $17000?

Left Coaster
Read the line properly
"He says an immediate place in the Brit school will now cost you SGD $170,000plus the deposits and school fees."

You can do this to avoid the waiting list.

To SQ Captains
 

Hello everyone,

I am actually a Senior Captain in Europe on the B777. I am seriously considering applying with SQ. I find the informations here very helpful. Can someone tell to me about roster and general work load for Capt?

Thank you,

Horizon Hunter

International School Fees
 

Colleague of mine is paying S$27k p.a. at an international school.

S$120k+ ? must have 4/5 kids?

See skycap's reply - yep. unbelievable but true - (S)$170,000 gets your kids head of the line priviledges JUST TO GET IN - and that's $170k EACH. The private schools here are bursting at the seams. SingAmericanSchool has over 700 on a waiting list but doesn't have a buy-your-way-in fee - you just have to wait. These are facts. :ugh:

Since you guys are here to experience the liftstyle, why not place your kids in local schools? I know of a Capt from Silkair that used to have all his kids there. His kids' network of local and expat friends are somewhat more of an interesting mix.

If you haven't read much into our local education, i suggest you do a bit of reading up. Correct me if i'm wrong, in terms of standards, it is one of the better ones in the world. Why miss the chance to experience wholesale when you are already deciding on coming to Singapore?

IF i didn't remember wrongly, it will cost you 3.5k to 8k per year in a local or semi local school.

WLF

No argument from me as to the quality of the local schools - just a personal choice