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Capt Coco 5th Sep 2010 16:44

169west, the press articles you attached/refer to, I don't think will have much affect on ANA pilot recruitment.
ANA have had their crewing numbers and plans in place for a while, the health or lack there of, of JAL hasn't seemed to have changed the recruiting urgency at ANA at all!!

Byobeer 5th Sep 2010 20:33

Upgrade
 
Thanks for the link. Can anyone comment on the time to command for experienced pilots and the change in pay.

Many thanks

ExpressCa 6th Sep 2010 02:08

Upgrade Time Frame
 
Just like byobeer,

I am also very interested to know upgrade time based on attrition, new aircraft deliveries, merger, future expansion.

I do understand its hard to tell but I would like to know you guys best educated guess.

Thanks in advance!

VONKLUFFEN 6th Sep 2010 03:06

HObbit, Hobbit
 
Why dont you go back into your book or planet and join all the characters of the "LORD OF THE RINGS" back again. I think there is where you belong. Not here in our comunity where gents communicate to gents in a rationl way. Inside your book you wont have to answer nor read 'stupid' questions. The only thing you have to do is BE a Hobbit. No need to impress anyone with your inteligence :eek::sad::confused::p

Martin VanNostrum 6th Sep 2010 03:07

I have been here for nine (long) years. With any job you will have plus and minus points. I guess you just have to decide if the plus points are enough for you; or the minus points are too many.

Until the very badly handled 'merger', both by the Japanese and the contract companies, of AJV and AJX into the 'New AJX' there were two fairly happy pilot groups each doing their own thing. Both groups are still doing their own thing together, however there seems to be no direction or any lead from the Japanese to where things are going or how. I get the feeling on the freight side that we are looked upon as the 'poor cousins'.

As for upgrade from COP to Captain. It has thus far begun around 3-4 years from date of joining the ANA group. Some got it earlier. However with the merger and some failures this looks like increasing to beyond the 3-4 years.

On the plus side the pay is not bad and increases. The business class travel is good for some and not for others (depends where you live). ZED travel is adequate. The chance to travel to different countries on days off, or live in different countries, is great.

Commuting jobs are ok for some people and not for others. Think hard about this aspect of the job.

Over the years I have thought about leaving for other airlines; but in my case the plus points for staying here were always more than the minus ones.

Hope this helps.

Byobeer 8th Sep 2010 07:46

Thanks for the info. Is it true that you can use 2 days of your leave
each month to extend you days off ?

Also any chance of an example of a regular roster.

Many thanks in advance.

Byobeer

Martin VanNostrum 8th Sep 2010 08:15

Yes you can add 2 days annual leave to your days off per month. You can also split your days each month and take, for example, 7 days off and then 5 days off (10 days per month plus 2 days A/L).

As far as a sample average roster, there isn't one. The cargo boys are still flying a cargo roster and the passenger boys and girl, are still flying passenger rosters. In March next year the roster will be joined and all pilots will fly one roster of both passenger and freight flights. That's the plan anyway.

Then the roster should have all pilots flying an average of say 70 hours per month of mixed passenger and freight flights; with a couple of standby days and a couple of blank days (basically a day 'free of duty', but company can change roster and use that day if required). Again this is the 'plan'. Plans change here somewhat frequently.

Needout 8th Sep 2010 16:10

Any idea for what classes guys currently screening might see if successful?

Martin VanNostrum 8th Sep 2010 22:47

Sorry I have no idea of that. With the major airlines in the USA starting to recall pilots on furlough rumour has it several pilots here will return to the USA.

I would guess (and that's all it is) that they would need to be replaced so courses would have to start sooner rather than later. I would contact whatever contract company you are using to try to get an answer. You will find them quite useless though.

fiftypercentn1 9th Sep 2010 08:50

maybe this is why they are accepting applications for DEC again?

Fratemate 9th Sep 2010 09:52

50%, don't be daft. The reason why they're talking about accepting DECs again is because, apparently, there are not enough pilots applying for FO positions. 'Why not?', I hear you cry. Well, thanks to the all-knowing Mr Potato Head we now know the answer. It's got nothing to do with time away, salary reductions for the cargo guys, nor the fewer days off. No; it's all because they don't want to fly 'older' B767s.

Unbelievable and that's the mentality we've got to deal with :rolleyes:

The Dominican 9th Sep 2010 15:23


it's all because they don't want to fly 'older' B767s.
Maybe something got lost in translation because I think the reason is because they don't want to fly with the old crusty dogs that are flying the 76's:E

azlee_19 10th Sep 2010 17:56

got lots of Fo's i knew who really wanted to apply but had to forget it because of Jet PIC requirement.

Me myself, FO with 4000++ jet hrs, no PIC at all, when will they abolish the PIC requirement or its always traditionally been the rules of recruitment in Japan?

The Dominican 11th Sep 2010 00:26


got lots of Fo's i knew who really wanted to apply but had to forget it because of Jet PIC requirement.

Me myself, FO with 4000++ jet hrs, no PIC at all, when will they abolish the PIC requirement or its always traditionally been the rules of recruitment in Japan?
Not sure what you are talking about, there is no Jet PIC requirement for F/O's.

Here are the requirements as published on the CREW website:

First Officers:
  • Total Flight Time in excess of 3,000 hours
  • Commercial Jet Time in excess of 1,000 hours; (competitive: 2000 hours commercial airline jet experience)
  • 250 hrs. PIC
  • 100 hrs. PIC Cross Country
  • 200 hrs. Cross Country
  • 100 hrs. Night Flight
  • 75 hrs. Instrument Flight
  • Valid Jet Aircraft Command Rating
  • Valid ICAO ATPL with English Proviciency Endorsement (Level 4 and higher)
  • Current Class One Medical

As you can see, it specifies Commercial Jet Time in excess of 1,000 hours but it doesn't say anywhere it is PIC, Are you confusing the requirements for Captains perhaps? Now, you do need a type rating but it doesn't say that you need PIC time on it. The 250 hours PIC that you see there is over your career (Cessna's and Indians)

Now those are minimums mind you

Absolutely 12th Sep 2010 07:31

Dominican, I think he's talking about the jet Command Rating! Some countries only have an FO rating if you are not a Captain. Easy enough to get though, takes a couple of sim rides.

azlee_19 14th Sep 2010 16:24

Jet PIC
 
Hey Dominican

Sorry i was away so the late reply.

75 hrs. Instrument Flight
Valid Jet Aircraft Command Rating <--------

As pointed out by Absolutely, this was what i meant by Jet PIC. My License clearly said i am only rated as co-pilot (P2) on my a/c types.

fiftypercentn1 16th Sep 2010 10:00

I might be wrong but I think this requirement comes from the JCAB, not the company. So they cannot change it even if they wanted.
As someone says anyway the limitation is pretty easy to get rid of,not sure about your Authority but in most countries a sim session should solve the problem.

skmarz 23rd Sep 2010 17:05

Not sure why it has disappeared but when you click on their ad on the APC website it still says "actively recruiting" and you can click to apply, FWIW.

Try this link...

Crew Resources Worldwide

Aerodmb 7th Nov 2010 16:11

Any updates on this contract with ANA/Air Japan?

Howzitchina 10th Nov 2010 13:46

Any recent interviews?
 
Can anyone please comment on their recent interview experience (their main focus, tech q's, hr q's), and how the medical compares to for example US standards?


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