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Kraus 10th Jun 2015 10:46

YOU NEED THE 100 HOURS.:ugh:

Check with the guy that pulled off course and told to come back with the 100 hours, they're not going down that road again.

Fratemate 10th Jun 2015 21:11

As far as beards are concerned, it seems to me that the Japanese are quite suspicious about them and it might just, possibly, be the one thing that means the difference between a job offer or not. We have plenty of pilots who sport beards but I cannot think of any of them who had fuzzy faces during the selection process i.e. most of them grew a beard after finishing training. This is purely an opinion based on observation and with absolutely no defined evidence of their selection standards.

Echoing what Kraus said (and what has been said several times in this long-running thread) the 100 hours cross country PIC is an absolute necessity, along with the night hours etc etc because they are a requirement for the issue of an ATPL. No ATPL, no flying with AJX.

KiloFoxtrot 12th Jun 2015 14:38

I interviewed in January and like others it took around 4 weeks to get the news that I passed. I was offered a May class. So initially, I had a couple of months. My son was born in April and I asked if I could be put in the July class and they were ok with that so I start July 6th.

As far as I know, if you pass the interview the job is yours. Training classes start every 2 months and they are only classes of 8. That may be why it takes some time to get a class date.

For those who are currently at AJX, how close is the Takenawa apartments to the training facilities? How did you get back and forth to training?

brhmky 12th Jun 2015 20:24

Hi to ALL
 
Just finished reading the 110th page of this forum, now another forum ahead to read on this subject. I would like to thank all of you guys here who put their effort to help others , especially to Fratemate and The dominican as I see that they have been writing here for years to help everybody without any expectations.

Currently I am working for a major flag carrier company flying A330 and had flown B737 before that for about a year and I have 2600 hours TT right now. I am really interested in applying for this position as it offers a great flexibility of living anywhere in the world with many other benefits such as a good salary, working in a developed country , a command upgrade etc.. Basically overall it looks like really a great gig which is hard to find and its kinda job that I would keep working for many years and it suits all my needs.

However I am really in a dilemma as I will get upgraded to either a B737 or a320 if I stay here when I have 5000 tt(2.5 years from now on). But the thing is I am not planning to stay here on the long term as I dont like living here. I will either get the job at Air Japan after obtaining 3000 hours and having passed all the interview and leave here or I will leave here after my command upgrade and will go for a commutting contract somewhere in the world. So its a go or go decision but the question is if I should wait till I get my command upgrade which is almost a guarantee or leave before that and get the job I would be happy with and which have all the aspects I want now and in the future and delay or risk my upgrade..(Ps : Even though I get my command upgrade here I cant apply to Air Japan anymore as they ask for 3000 PIC and only hire captains with Japanese ATPL). But as we all know getting your command is the most important step of this job..

So should I wait for an upgrade living in a place I dont want to live or should I go for Air Japan job where I could be happier but delaying or risking my upgrade ? What do u guys think about it ? What do ur guts tell u ? I want to hear ur opinions based on your experience.

And I would really appreciate if someone can send me the briefing package so I can have a look at it. It would be easier to understand the comments about the similator if I had it !

Thanks in advance and I hope everybody achieves what they want !!

Absolutely 13th Jun 2015 01:23

BRHMKY,

Delaying or knocking back a position at AJX to get a few hundred hours command where you are will not really achieve anything. If you have decided that AJX is what you want then as soon as you get your 3000hrs go for it. In my opinion ANA will not care about 500hrs command on the 737 or A320 and it will only delay your spot at AJX, if that's what you really want.
Sorry I don't have a briefing package.

Fratemate 13th Jun 2015 03:11

BRHMKY,

I agree with Absolutely. You are going to get your 3000 hours a lot sooner than the 5000 you need for a command in your current job and that command will make no difference to your AJX application. For DEC in AJX you basically need a JCAB ATPL, >3000 PIC in 737 or bigger (and a 767 type rating to make you really competitive). You're not going to achieve any of that for a fairly long time and if it's AJX you want then you're far better off applying for it as soon as you can, getting on the AJX list and, therefore, getting an AJX command as soon as you can.

DIESELENGINE 13th Jun 2015 08:59

Fratemate, Im a bit confused now,

You said "No ATPL, no flying with AJX".

I DO have:
FAA ATPL
about 4000h total (mostly E145 and A320),
I DO have plenty of night,
and i DO have a beard! ;)

but I DO NOT have:100 PIC x-coutry nor do I have 250 PIC (plenty of PICUS though :ok:)

Would that still fly?

The only reason I'm trying to really be clear about this, is because one of the hiring pilots from LONGREACH CHINA,confused the heck out of me by replying me in an email: " as long as you have 3000 total, you're ok to apply"

Just seems like he skipped a few steps there ...

Fratemate 13th Jun 2015 11:16

Sorry, Diesel, I should have been more specific. No JCAB ATPL, no flying for AJX. In order to get a JCAB ATPL issued you have to have the 100 hours PIC X-country, as well as the night stuff etc.

As Kraus said, we had one guy who'd completed most of the course. He'd done his type rating test in the sim and was due to sit his ATPL check. During the course of checking his paperwork before they put him up for the check our office staff noticed that he did not have the 100 hours PIC X-country. He'd gone through a cadet program and gone straight to the 744 but that wasn't good enough! He was not allowed to sit the ATPL check and was let go from AJV (at the time) but, all credit to him, he went to the States and bashed holes in the sky in a puddle jumper to get the requisite hours and then he came back to AJV.......and started all over again :eek::eek::eek: He's now a captain :)

The Japanese have no idea what PICUS is so, no, that won't fly.


one of the hiring pilots from LONGREACH CHINA
I can see your problem straight away; you believed something that someone associated with China said. First off, if it's someone from China then it's almost certainly going to be a lie. Second, the Chinese rules may well be different to Japan. I really don't know but, then again, I'm not for one moment pretending I do....unlike the the guy from LC.

Have a chat with the people at Crew. They're used to dealing with pilots from the USA and know what they're talking about with AJX, so they'll be able to tell you exactly what you need and don't need. They might even be able to advise you on the best razor to use on your face fungus :ok:

EFC_ 13th Jun 2015 12:04

Hi all,
I'll be in the September class. Thanks again for all of the advice and insight during the process.

gtseraf 13th Jun 2015 23:28

congrats and good luck with the course and your time in AJX :ok:

virustalon 14th Jun 2015 01:45

DieselEngine

"Fratemate, Im a bit confused now,

You said "No ATPL, no flying with AJX".

I DO have:
FAA ATPL
about 4000h total (mostly E145 and A320),
I DO have plenty of night,
and i DO have a beard!

but I DO NOT have:100 PIC x-coutry nor do I have 250 PIC (plenty of PICUS though )

Would that still fly?

The only reason I'm trying to really be clear about this, is because one of the hiring pilots from LONGREACH CHINA,confused the heck out of me by replying me in an email: " as long as you have 3000 total, you're ok to apply"

Just seems like he skipped a few steps there ..."




How can you have FAA ATPL and not have the 100x Country if thats a requirement for FAA CPL?

You obviously have it if you're flying e145 and A320.

You make me confused.

The Dominican 14th Jun 2015 02:02


How can you have FAA ATPL and not have the 100x Country if thats a requirement for FAA CPL?
Wondering the same thing:confused:

tokyojohn 14th Jun 2015 08:19

In the U.S. once you obtain your PPL and fly with an instructor you can log it as PIC time even though it's dual received. In Japan this kind of PIC time is not accepted. I think that's why.

The Dominican 14th Jun 2015 08:53


tokyojohn In the U.S. once you obtain your PPL and fly with an instructor you can log it as PIC time even though it's dual received.
It will still show as PIC time towards his U.S. ATP wouldn't it?

The question is how can he have an FAA issued ATP without one of the requirements stated on 61.159 in this case the minimum PIC time???

tokyojohn 14th Jun 2015 09:41

He does have the reqs for the FAA ATP. 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof, which includes at least
1. 100 hours of cross-country flight time.
The JCAB doesn't allow the pic Xcountry to be "second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command." whereas in the U.S. it does.

The Dominican 14th Jun 2015 09:47


but I DO NOT have:100 PIC x-coutry nor do I have 250 PIC (plenty of PICUS though )
I'm just going by what he wrote:confused:

galbi_c 14th Jun 2015 13:04

250 PIC in prop?
 
Just to clarify, 250 PIC can be in propeller planes as an instructor? Some of us only have SIC jet times.. Thanks

Fratemate 14th Jun 2015 13:48


The JCAB doesn't allow the pic Xcountry to be "second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command." whereas in the U.S. it does.
Sounds reasonable to me. Diesel was able to obtain his FAA ATPL by virtue of his PICUS time, which is all legal and above board. Unfortunately, as I said previously, the JCAB do not recognise PICUS so to qualify for the AJX job Diesel will have to ensure he does have both the 250 total AND the 100 cross country PIC hours before he can apply.


Just to clarify, 250 PIC can be in propeller planes as an instructor?
The requirement is only that you have 250 PIC (plus the other stuff) and there is no need for it to be in jets. Whether that makes you competitive in the selection is a different matter but your PIC can be in propellor driven aircraft.

The Dominican 14th Jun 2015 14:35

ATPL
 
"Sounds reasonable to me. Diesel was able to obtain his FAA ATPL by virtue of his PICUS time, which is all legal and above board. Unfortunately, as I said previously, the JCAB do not recognise PICUS so to qualify for the AJX job Diesel will have to ensure he does have both the 250 total AND the 100 cross country PIC hours before he can apply."

I don't care about reasonable...., literal as per the FAR's is what's relevant...., you need 250h of which 100 MUST be actual PIC...., he stated that he doesn't have it....! So how come an FAA, ATP?

The Dominican 14th Jun 2015 14:55

You keep talking about jets and turboprops and the regulations say nothing about it.....! It is very simple, you need 250 hours of which 100 MUST be PIC...!

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