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landslyde81 28th Mar 2004 11:53

eye tests
 
Good day everyone,

I was just wondering on these 2 tests:

-visual acuity eye-test (Snellen's Chart)
-colour vision test (Ishihara)

Do you need to see an eye specialist for these tests or a GP would be sufficient?

Thanks!

landslyde81 28th Mar 2004 13:21

eye tests
 
Good day everyone,

I was just wondering on these 2 tests:

-visual acuity eye-test (Snellen's Chart)
-colour vision test (Ishihara)

Do you need to see an eye specialist for these tests or a GP would be sufficient?

Thanks!

donaldstan 28th Mar 2004 14:33

Chris,

the interview is in 2 wks' time. i hav no idea how I should prepare. Can advise ah?


landslyde81,

R u goin to the interview in Nikko Hotel KL in April also? I asked SFC regarding the tests. they say any doctor will do. no need go specialist.

landslyde81 5th Apr 2004 14:25

thanks!
 
thanks donald ....all the best for your interview...:cool: :ok:

Vne98 7th Apr 2004 19:21

How do i get permanent citizenship?
 
Just wondering if anyone knows how i can become a permanent citizen of SI and get in on the cadet program that SIA provides?

Ive got all my licences and training here in Canada and have some family friends living in Singapore right now. If someone can fill me in on the process of getting my paperwork straight that would be a huge help

thnx

Airman45 8th Apr 2004 12:57

I am surprise you guys are still interested in joining this bull **** airline that does not even treasure the human resources that they have now. Many good men have left, more will follow. Is it because of you suckers that are willing to be taken for a ride that allow SIA to dictate the kind of ****ty terms they are dishing out to their pilots. If you are in for the life style, let me tell you there is nothing much to talk about, it will be worst in the future. It will be worse if you are starting a family because half the time you are not around to be with them. In the past, you will think the monetary returns will be able to offset the times you are not able to spend with them such as weekends, birthdays, anniversaries etc. However, the pay they are going to dish out to you young fellas would never have enticed me to join them years ago. If you are coming in for the money, let me tell you, you are better off working elsewhere. However, I said this putting myself in the position of chaps who are only allow to join after 26 whereby you have got a degree and somehow been established in your present career for a few years. Do find out more before you make the giant step of no returns (literally and monetary). You are actually giving up alot and your freedom too. You will be bonded like 7 yrs after you are make first officer....but let me tell you this..it seem forever!

However, for those true hearted wannabe aviators with flying in their blood, the joy of flying the aircraft is something else. Every landing is different..and exhilerating! If that is what you are looking for.....I advise you to join military flying....

but for young chaps who want to join thinking that airline pilots are glamorous and impressive, by all means do and find out for yourselves....and you will know that is nothing that great after all.......in the end...you will realise that you have all been SUCKERS and taken for a ride by the so-called best airline ! Just like prositutes, you will be used and thrown aside....no doubt you will get paid for being such a good laid.....but is it all worth it???

Bluntly So 17th Apr 2004 07:27

Without Prejudice / bias
 
If you are from nearby countries or from SE Asia ,you will survive . A cadet pilot who is from the West or of that cultural mind set, then he is in for a BIG surprise-- unless he /she is very positive & be willing to give up their individuality and become the sole property of the company-- bow down to them, as its the the way the culture is ,"no sir- yes sir- 3 bags full sir .." he / she will get through. after all they are paying for all the training so you belong to Them!!

If you dare to ask why should I push this button this way ( so you can really understand the reason behind it & learn --you will be Hauled up & be marked as trouble maker..

Depends on how much one is ready to sacrifice by way of personality changes, changing ones thinking to be part of this institution. YOu can have a Phd. but will be treated as a school kid.
Good Luck

Vne98 19th Apr 2004 23:15

If you are from nearby countries or from SE Asia ,you will survive . A cadet pilot who is from the West or of that cultural mind set, then he is in for a BIG surprise--

Not too sure if that was implied to Canadians specifically or Westerners in general. However, I had the opportunity to stay in Singapore for 3 weeks and I did not notice any 'BIG' surprises infact I was surprised how similar the countries were.

landslyde81 10th May 2004 15:39

Hi Guys,

Need some tips and guidance for the 2nd round of interview (SIA) now that I've got through the first...(thanks to you guys!)

As pointed out by you kind folks earlier, the following stage will cover the 2 ½ hour aptitude test on the first day (which I believe is computer based) and a 3 hour test on the second day.

What can I expect for the aptitude test? I’m sure there is a certain amount of Math involved, but how complex is it going to be? Trigonometry? Or is it just simple calculations (percentage etc etc…)?

How about the 3 hour test on the second day? Is the psychomotor test being slotted in here?

Next will be the final interview and tea party. I reckon there will be lots of technical questions being asked in the final interview as far as aviation is concerned…

And yeah, will there be any group discussions / activities?

Appreciate your kind feedback…

Cheers and Regards…
:ok:

sq111 11th May 2004 01:05

here I am again.....

Aptitude test, simple, no need to be a maths/physics genius. just some memory and logic questions. also some question to test your judgement . no need to ask around, any average person can make it.

the next day, in the morning, you'll be asked to do things like design a airport, build a control tower using lego chips.

then the final interview....

why u want to join SIA
if u are selected, which aircraft u want to fly (if you say B737, then good luck)
Say if u say B744, it may be followed by, how many engines does a 744 has? How many crew?

How does a jet engine works.....


thats about it... then they offer u a job as cadet pilot and pay u peanuts during training and then bond u for 7 years as a first officer

landslyde81 12th May 2004 14:48

Thanks for the info...appreciate it...Cheers!!!:ok:

limchristopher 29th May 2004 03:28

How long...?
 
Hi there, can anyone please tell me if one sucessfully pass the first interview, where will the second n third interviews be held? And how long for them to reply back to you for each interviews?? Thanks and please let me know ASAP...

Cheers!!!

sq111 29th May 2004 03:53

my time was 1 month, but that was in Singapore, and it was many years ago. not sure for Malaysia though.

but then, once its up, another 1 month is all they took to tie u down for the next 10 years (2.5yrs to 3 of training, followed by 7 years as FO)

Singapore Airlines, a Great Way to Fly.... for 10 years... :{

limchristopher 29th May 2004 04:14

wow, so it will just take tow months for everything to be completed...SO, are you a captain wth SIA now?

sq111 29th May 2004 04:24

two months if u are lucky, my time got guys wait close to 6 months.

I am :{ , so u think I am a captain???

many years ago, but then any FO will have to serve 7 years or pay the 160k SGD bond. so I mean many years doesn't not mean I am on the left seat... For Non-locals, even longer for command upgrade.

limchristopher 29th May 2004 04:30

...
 
wow, so how many years have you been bonded? So, are you telling me tha tyou can quit your job wth SIA once you go for the training? How much does the salary ranges for second office and first officer? What about captains? CAn you please tell me roughly how much is it? And where will they be conduting the flying lessons? I am really grateful for your info. Cheers!

sq111 1st Jun 2004 01:10

2nd officer is about $2300 Sin plus meal allowance. FOs ranges from $4300 to $5200 plus meal allowance and flight allowance. total expected is about $8000SGD per month.

Bond? Once u are accepted, u need to provide 2 guarantors and u are bonded immediately, altho ur actual bond is 7 years after ur appointment as First Officer.

Training will be conducted in Singapore for the first 6 - 8 months, at Seletar airbase. U'll do all the theory leading to frozen ATPL, plus do about 20 hours of single engine flight, with 20th hr as solo. Then you'll go to Perth (Jandakot) for about 9-11 months for ur multi engine rating, navigation, instrument rating etc.

After this, you'll go to Brisbane (Maroochydore) to do your Learjet course. Its about 3 weeks theory, 3 weeks simulator and followed by 10 sorties, total expected is about 5-6 months. Then you'll go back to Singapore for your fleet conversion course, likely to be B777 or B744, that will be about 4-5 months. then followed by line training as a 2nd officer, which is abt 7-9 months. Then u'll be FO and be tied down for next 7 years.

But understand now is that u are recruited as a trainee with Singapore FLying college, and u'll be placed in any of the SIA group airlines, ie SIA, SIA Cargo, Silkair or Tiger Airways, unlike my time, when u join as SIA and u'll be with SIA. Better check it out, my info like I said was many years ago.

limchristopher 1st Jun 2004 01:31

Thanks SQ for your info.
I appreciate it a lot. Well, I suppose its still from SIA, but it doesnt matter which airline they put you through, does it? Is it because of the differences in pay for each of the airlines? But just as long as it will fulfill what i have always been wanting to do :) ...

So, are you still a FO now?>How many years have you been a FO? IS it true that foreigners from the east will get a lower pay compare to the west once they get into SIA? How true is this?

Ok, i will keep you updated! Cheers!!!

sq111 1st Jun 2004 01:45

err well, if u dream of flying a B747, u'll definitely be disappointed with A320. Plus in SIA Cargo, u'll fly cargos without those pretty stewardess, so no chance for hanky panky business :)

The SIA group, or for that matter Asian Airlines do pay according to fleet type, so a B744 pilot earns more than a B737, so fly big means pay big.

Silkair flies regional, so no chance for flights to LA, San Francisco or your fav Australia or whatever. Only interesting part is that u fly more sectors in silkair compared to SIA. Imagine if u are in A345 fleet, you'll do only one take off and landing every 18 hours, so very few sectors under ur belt, but the good thing is, lots of $$$

limchristopher 1st Jun 2004 02:03

Hmm, ok, so size does matter, eh:) ...ha ha...
Anyway, i cant decide on which one i will be flying with as its really up to them to decide for me...OR can i reject the type of aircraft they want me to fly with?

Hey, its still a long way for me to go..hehe...Btw, hwat is your current position? :)


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